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in the 1930s President Franklin Delano

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Roosevelt addressed the nation through a

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series of radio broadcasts known as the

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Fireside Chats his aim was to reassure

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the common man that our society would

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recover from its troubled times well

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we're far from 1930 and I deal with a

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different kind of fire for a new era of

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worldly frustration we offer a fresh

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conversation I'm Greg carlwood and these

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are the higher side chats yes sir side

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Chatters coming in hot from Sunny San

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Diego I'm Greg carlwood and it boggles

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the mind that so few people really

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consider just how much more abundance

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efficiency and prosperity we could have

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in an optimized society when we can all

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easily acknowledge that industry is

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motivated by bringing the most

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profitable products and systems to

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Market not those that are the most

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useful to society or ideal for the

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consumer food medicine energy and more

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like a good drug dealer their products

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and systems are designed to get you on

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the never-ending comeback whether by

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metered bottomless bills for energy or

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planned obsolescence throughout the

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market from computer printers to light

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bulbs and batteries the profit motive

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encourages things to be made to break

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made cheaper and more fragile and for

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even food to be engineered much closer

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to pleasure Center capturing cardboard

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than anything of real quality so why is

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it so controversial to suggest that

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better products systems and energy

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processes exist just outside of the coal

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old capitalist-controlled culture and

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the monopolies of the interlocking

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multinational corporate cabal shouldn't

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that just be a given and when you

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research the alternative realm and the

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bright minds of suppressed Sciences you

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certainly come away disappointed with

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just how backwards things really are

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well instrumental to opening my eyes for

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years has been the great Aaron murakami

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of emediapress.com who has been

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highlighting the best and brightest for

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a long time now his website contains a

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few products many presentations and tons

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of educational material from those

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outside the system scientists engineers

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and inventors that all deserve much more

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recognition than they tend to get but

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his yearly energy Science and Technology

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conference is certainly starting to

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change that and here with Aaron today is

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Jeremiah forwarda one of those bright

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Minds that Aaron has been working with

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and one of the most exciting presenters

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of the estc conference in recent years

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Jeremiah has done more to take the Tesla

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turbine further than anyone since

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probably Tesla himself he's the founder

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of my Tesla power and attended Embry

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Riddle Aeronautical University where he

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studied mechanical engineering he left

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after two years because he didn't agree

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with the professors who insisted that

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Nikola Tesla wasn't as smart as he is

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said to be that many of his theories

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were wrong and that they went against

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the well-established laws of

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thermodynamics Aaron believes in

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Jeremiah's work so much that he's

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letting Jeremiah move his operation into

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his shop in an effort to help catapult

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everything he's doing further and faster

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than he could do on his own and I'm

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psyched to have them both here to talk

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about what's possible with the Tesla

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turbine and more the secret science

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studiers outside the box Advocates and

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Tesla Tech teachers Aaron and Jeremiah

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welcome to the higher side

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hey thanks for having us Greg thank you

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great introduction

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thank you man I try and so I always like

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to remind the audience of where we are

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on some of the various threads I like to

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follow because sometimes huge chunks of

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time pass and they can't be expected to

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remember everything but Aaron you and I

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have kept in touch for quite a few years

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now you brought us Eric dollar

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originally in 2015 and again in 2019 and

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you and I did an ether physics 101

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interview in 2018 and you also helped

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set up the interview I did in 2019 with

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Ernst Wilhelm bundenberg who wrote the

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science of Tesla's magic and you've been

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kind enough to really set me up well for

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a conference visit but with the pregnant

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wife and now baby I just haven't been

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able to take you up on it but I think

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2023 is going to be the year I come out

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if the offer stands but before we dive

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into Jeremiah's work can you give us a

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little update on Eric I know the people

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have been really fascinated with him in

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those interviews that we've done how has

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his work progressed since 29 19.

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sure so Eric is doing pretty well he's

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at his lab in West Central Nevada and he

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was unfortunately not able to come up to

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the conference this year but back in

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January myself and a few Associates went

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down there and helped to move things

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forward with organization and getting

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the shop cleaned up and

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one of the projects we're able to get

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going is

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one of Eric's big interests is the

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teleric Tesla type of transmission

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basically ground transmission where

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you're sending information and

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Communications through the Earth using

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the Earth as one wire which is

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essentially what Tesla was doing with

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electricity with the so-called Colorado

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Springs type of magnifying transmitter

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and so there's an Old Navy style

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transmitter that's hooked up right now

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it was with the team of people that we

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had it was successfully connected to an

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old abandoned gas lighting system pipe

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Network as the grounding rod

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that goes through the town and did a

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couple tests where a couple people drove

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out a couple miles away and they were

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still able to pick up these

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Transmissions that were transmitted

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straight into the ground rather than out

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into the airwaves

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so that was a success and more recently

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somebody that we work with Haka says who

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is one of the presenters at the

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conference and has been working with us

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for a while he recently dug out some

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Parts out of a storage locker to help

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Eric move forward with building a 1500

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watt RF amplifier so that we can take

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the power output of that tolerant

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transmitter up to about 1500 watts and

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potentially might be able to transmit

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thousand miles

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I love it and Jeremiah I appreciate you

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being here as well Aaron told me a lot

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about your work and when it comes to

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Tesla people tend to know a lot more

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about his AC motor or the Tesla Tower

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but they don't really know much about

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the turbine which is funny because as

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I've recently learned Tesla said this

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was his favorite invention right

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yep he said it was his favorite

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invention and he worked on it a lot

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longer than people think or people know

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hmm Rhino why do you think that is that

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he thought it was his favorite out of

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all the things he worked on

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energy

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and his turbine is basically what I

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think is the best turbine in the world

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for transforming a temperature

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differential into energy so there's all

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these heat sources that we have on the

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planet including your wood stove and we

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still don't have a simple device to

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convert that heat into energy for

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instance everybody who has like a wood

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stove home right now could have a simple

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turbine

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and just as a side effect of running

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their wood stove they could have enough

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electricity

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to power their house in the winter time

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when there's no sun for solar systems

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that's just one example of many examples

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it also can run on any fuel or any heat

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Source or anything that burns you can

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run the turbine on so where normally you

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would have a generator in the winter

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time to make up for when there's no sun

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specific Fuel and that goes with one

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specific type of way to convert that

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into energy which is

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a regular generator with thousands of

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different parts that can all wear out

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very efficient

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temperature differential is the main

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factor here so for people to visualize

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this you could have a chamber and you

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could burn anything wood gasoline diesel

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jet fuel weeds even garbage yeah it's

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garbage sawdust propane natural gas it

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doesn't matter what you burn because the

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burning creates the Heat and then the

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heat goes into the turbine and it

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outputs energy which can be obviously

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converted to electricity and that's why

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it's such a magical thing is because we

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aren't stuck in in a monopoly where one

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person controls the fuel source we're

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allowed to use you could really burn

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anything you're saying absolutely and

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there's also one more interesting

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compost pile A lot of times you have a

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lot of heat building up in that compost

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pile you could also use the heat from

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that to run your system to sometimes

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compost piles will get so hot they'll

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actually start on fire and that's

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another interesting heat Source you

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could use yeah yeah and you've also

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mentioned geothermal heat so you could

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bury the chamber far enough down to

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capture the internal heat of the earth

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and not burn anything that would need

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replenishing and obviously solar can be

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used as well so really it sounds highly

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adaptable to all kinds of stuff or all

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kinds of inputs I should say yeah

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and when it comes to the output of this

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turbine I've watched a lot of your

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YouTube videos which kind of document

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your process of learning and refining

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the system and you have one video where

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you mention a three inch turbine that is

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putting out an estimated

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1750 watts and so for me I'm like well

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what does that even mean I looked up

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that the running wattage on most

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household refrigerators is usually

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between

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350 to 750 watts let's call it 500 so

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just this smaller turbine that you've

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made in the past would be able to run

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like three or four refrigerators if that

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helps people to do the math and these

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turbines they have these discs in them

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they look kind of like records so when I

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say three inch that's like a small three

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inch disc and then I think now you're

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working on a 6 6 inch can you talk to us

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about that a little bit about the the

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process and the progression of the

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different models you've worked with and

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what you think the final specs will be

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for maximum efficiency and what that can

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produce

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so the three inch turbine was basically

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to produce cheaper turbines for research

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and development which it did really well

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it did really well to prove the concept

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and I also learned a lot about the

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physics of Tesla turbine but I needed it

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more powerful and more efficient for the

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actual production turbine so

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I tested the concept showed the power

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output

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and

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confident that we can give somebody a

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good quality working turbine

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for I mean

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we're going to make the price as cheap

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as we can but it's going to be

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the main thing about the turbine is it's

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going to be long lasting and it's going

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to be very reliable and very efficient I

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love it that's exciting news and in the

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research I was doing leading up to this

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trying to learn a bit more about the

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turbine and the history of Tesla's

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turbine the criticism I hear of the

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machine itself is that these discs have

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to spin really fast a lot of RPMs and

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the heat also is a factor the

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conventional

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system says that these discs warp and

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they break down what would you say to

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that

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if you type it in on Google it's the

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first video that pops up and I know

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exactly what video you're talking about

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where it talks about the speed being

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impractical because the speed of the

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rotor would have to go 60 000 RPMs and

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for a three foot rotor

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what you actually don't need with a

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three foot rotor sixty thousand RPMs is

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impossible to achieve because the

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centrifugal force is pulling on the

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discs are too great for any material to

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hold itself together under those forces

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so they were first talking about a six

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inch turbine having to spend 60 000 RPMs

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and then they said well if you want for

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industry if you want

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to run a turbine their diameter is

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usually about three foot so for a three

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foot rotor to spend sixty thousand RPMs

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to achieve the same high enough speed it

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would be impossible so

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it's really funny because there's a very

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basic flaw in their math and

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the important part of the speed of a

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turbine is the size of the diameter

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larger size diameters don't need to go

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as fast in order to achieve the same

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periphery speed per RPM

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so in order for a six inch turbine to go

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fast enough it needs to go 60 000 RPMs

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according to them

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a three foot turbine wouldn't need to go

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anywhere near that RPM because the speed

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of the periphery per RPM is so much

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greater in the three foot turbine it

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would only end up needing to run about

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6500 RPM to achieve the same speed as

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the six inch turbine so they're

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comparing two things that don't actually

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correlate the way they think it does I

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don't know if this is done on purpose

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but the video got over 10 million views

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so far and it seems like a smear

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campaign for the Tesla turbine

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interesting interesting so another thing

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sorry I want to mention is you don't

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actually need a six inch turbine to go

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60 000 RPM that kind of seems like a

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random guess that they made as well it

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is advantageous to run the turbine at

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higher velocities because you can get

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more power with less torque but Nikola

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Tesla didn't have any issues whatsoever

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with his turbines and getting over 200

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horsepower out without any problems the

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reason it's famous for his discs to warp

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is because he was just running the

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turbine to see its maximum speed

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basically there's no need to go too fast

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to where the turbine

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starts to warp the discs and it makes

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sense to me too because during my

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research and development there's

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probably 50 different times where I

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wanted to test the maximum speed of my

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rotor and I had all kinds of things

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happening that I knew would happen like

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rotors stretching and breaking and

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you know it's just part of research and

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development so it's no wonder he had his

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discs warped a couple times

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um

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that helps people understand this a lot

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I think and

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when it comes to the principles that

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make this work that same video you're

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probably referencing that I brought up

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talks about the viscous effect of fluids

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On Solid Surfaces and so when stuff

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starts to get over my head especially in

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this alternative realm what I like what

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like excites me and brings me back to it

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is a lot of these guys are observing

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things in nature and then developing

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systems and technologies that are based

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on what our system shows us I think

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that's kind of exciting and nature seems

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to have a lot of really complex and

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advanced processes that look simple and

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instead are mainstream system just wants

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to blow everything up rip everything

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apart and kind of developed a physics

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and an energy system that kind of goes

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against nature in some ways but this

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video mentions that Tesla might have

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even watched this happen and gotten the

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idea from looking into a stream and when

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you see the viscous effects of fluid on

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a solid meaning water in the Stream

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moving over Stones there is a little bit

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of an effect there there's some

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principles at work that I guess seem

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interesting to people who are smarter

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than me but I've also heard this

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described as a tornado or a hurricane in

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a box the more heat and moisture you

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pump into a hurricane the stronger it

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gets category two three four talk to us

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about the principles that make this work

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that aren't really recognized in the

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mainstream and how this relates to

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things we see in nature

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yeah and so the tornado in the Box

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if you can imagine well there's two

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different types of turbine well there's

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many different types of turbines but

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Teslas uses viscosity so your gas isn't

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actually

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colliding with any surfaces it just

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drags alongside it

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and then our regular turbine will have a

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surface that the particles of gas smash

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into

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and so you have a chaotic tornado that's

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got turbulence all over the place it's

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kind of like with aerodynamics and a car

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the more aerodynamic your car is the

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less chaos and the less turbulence in

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the car so the the easier it is for you

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to travel because there's less chaos but

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it's a laminar flow condition with an

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ideal turbine you have a laminar flow

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condition and the Tesla turbines

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basically the only thing that has that

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laminar flow so if you think of two

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turbines one where there's a bunch of

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chaos and one where everything's working

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together in the same direction that

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would be more a more natural

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energy conversion

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for a turbine

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nice well it seems like you know your

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stuff man far more than I can argue with

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but Aaron let's bring you back in here

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you've been doing this conference for

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several years running highlighting all

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sorts of outside the box engineers and

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inventors working on a wide variety of

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devices and systems the Tesla turbine

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the bork engine atoms motor bendini's

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Ferris wheel talk to us about what it is

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regarding Jeremiah's work on this

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turbine that gets you so jazzed up that

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he's the one we got here today that he's

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the one coming to work in your shop it

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just seems like you've got plenty of

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options but this seems to be the thing

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that you're elevating as maybe closest

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to production ready or at least very

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important even in this alternative space

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yeah it seems to be one of the

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low-hanging fruits as far as a system

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goes that can actually produce

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electricity in Practical amounts

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it's basically mechanical it's EMP proof

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there's no complicated electronics and

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there's Plumbing

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so it's really very simple one thing

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Jeremiah didn't mention

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that I'd like to say just to show how

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fast and Rapid the progress for this is

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happening

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with all the work Jeremiah is doing is

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that last year at the conference it took

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a whole trailer to carry the hot water

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tank and the rest of the setup and the

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cold tank to create this thermal

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differential

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was submerged in ice and it worked it

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proved the point and It produced a

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certain amount of electricity

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this year the hot tank was everything

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sat on a tabletop

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and it outperformed what happened last

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year the hot water tank was around 175

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degrees and the cold tank was at 85

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degrees

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a much lower thermal differential yet it

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was able to produce a lot more

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electricity so going from something that

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took a trailer to carry it to having

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something on a tabletop at a conference

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demonstration that outperforms that big

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system

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that's pretty rapid progress that's a

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so-called Quantum Leap in the uh

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efficiency of the whole system

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Jeremiah's been able to put together

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what I like about it is that if for

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example there happens to be something

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that breaks down well if it's something

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electronic that has some type of control

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board or whatever if one little

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component goes bad most people are not

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going to be in a position to be able to

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work on it but with the Tesla turbine

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for example if something was to go wrong

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anybody with some basic Mechanical

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Aptitude could maybe pull it apart

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replace the bearings put it back

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together and get it working again so

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it's simple simple and it's highly

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effective and there are a couple

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electrical type of systems that produce

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electricity that I think are very

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promising but

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for the reason stated those are the

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reasons why I'm so interested in seeing

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Jeremiah's work move forward

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right on yes I think that's great and it

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is fascinating I wish we had the visual

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representation sometimes on this show

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but it is what it is and one of the

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criticisms about this is that it doesn't

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produce enough to be really practical

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it's kind of like the critics would say

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well we all see

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people in in high school science fairs

555
00:22:45,169 --> 00:22:43,500
screw a light bulb into a potato but

556
00:22:46,610 --> 00:22:45,179
we're not all powering our houses with

557
00:22:49,970 --> 00:22:46,620
potatoes just because there's some

558
00:22:52,430 --> 00:22:49,980
energy there and so I looked up you know

559
00:22:54,890 --> 00:22:52,440
the average American households

560
00:22:57,529 --> 00:22:54,900
consumption and it says that the average

561
00:23:00,529 --> 00:22:57,539
American household consumes about 11 000

562
00:23:02,270 --> 00:23:00,539
kilowatts per year let's just call it a

563
00:23:04,490 --> 00:23:02,280
thousand a month you know break it down

564
00:23:06,350 --> 00:23:04,500
to 800 or a thousand a month

565
00:23:07,789 --> 00:23:06,360
when you bring this to Market and you

566
00:23:10,430 --> 00:23:07,799
refine it

567
00:23:12,890 --> 00:23:10,440
um as much as you plan to how much

568
00:23:16,610 --> 00:23:12,900
energy production do you suspect you can

569
00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:16,620
reach can you get to that 800 to 1000

570
00:23:20,750 --> 00:23:18,240
kilowatts

571
00:23:22,130 --> 00:23:20,760
a month or I mean I don't know how it as

572
00:23:23,630 --> 00:23:22,140
long as you're burning something could

573
00:23:25,850 --> 00:23:23,640
it power a home

574
00:23:29,090 --> 00:23:25,860
yeah so with that one devil you

575
00:23:31,850 --> 00:23:29,100
mentioned the 1750 Watts the average

576
00:23:35,029 --> 00:23:31,860
home I think actually draws about a

577
00:23:37,430 --> 00:23:35,039
kilowatt per hour 24 hours a day

578
00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:37,440
so basically if you had a thousand watts

579
00:23:41,750 --> 00:23:39,600
of light bulbs burning 24 hours a day

580
00:23:45,409 --> 00:23:41,760
that represents really about what the

581
00:23:47,930 --> 00:23:45,419
average household is okay and you know

582
00:23:49,690 --> 00:23:47,940
so if you had some solar tube collectors

583
00:23:52,730 --> 00:23:49,700
for example which can be under 90

584
00:23:54,169 --> 00:23:52,740
efficient range and that was heating up

585
00:23:57,710 --> 00:23:54,179
a tank of water

586
00:23:59,870 --> 00:23:57,720
the Heat and that water tank was sized

587
00:24:02,510 --> 00:23:59,880
so that it's greater than what the Tesla

588
00:24:03,890 --> 00:24:02,520
turbine system can deplete over a

589
00:24:05,810 --> 00:24:03,900
handful of days

590
00:24:08,930 --> 00:24:05,820
then you constantly have this buffer

591
00:24:12,049 --> 00:24:08,940
where it'll be spending 24 7 producing

592
00:24:13,430 --> 00:24:12,059
electricity 24 7 powered freely from the

593
00:24:15,289 --> 00:24:13,440
Sun and that's kind of a simple system

594
00:24:16,789 --> 00:24:15,299
that I see and I think Jeremiah might

595
00:24:19,370 --> 00:24:16,799
have some comments on that

596
00:24:21,529 --> 00:24:19,380
I just wanted to mention that you don't

597
00:24:23,390 --> 00:24:21,539
necessarily need water to store your

598
00:24:25,669 --> 00:24:23,400
heat in water

599
00:24:26,570 --> 00:24:25,679
there's a simple adjustment I'm going to

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00:24:28,850 --> 00:24:26,580
do

601
00:24:30,169 --> 00:24:28,860
where we can store the heat energy and

602
00:24:32,870 --> 00:24:30,179
dirt

603
00:24:35,630 --> 00:24:32,880
and a big problem with solar systems is

604
00:24:37,909 --> 00:24:35,640
storing the energy one you can't store

605
00:24:39,409 --> 00:24:37,919
the energy fast enough sometimes like in

606
00:24:41,450 --> 00:24:39,419
the winter time when the sun's only out

607
00:24:44,029 --> 00:24:41,460
for two hours

608
00:24:46,610 --> 00:24:44,039
even if you have a massive amount of

609
00:24:48,890 --> 00:24:46,620
solar panels your batteries can't absorb

610
00:24:50,930 --> 00:24:48,900
the energy fast enough but the good

611
00:24:54,590 --> 00:24:50,940
thing about having solar heat collectors

612
00:24:57,289 --> 00:24:54,600
is one they put out way more power

613
00:25:00,890 --> 00:24:57,299
solar panels are typically

614
00:25:04,789 --> 00:25:00,900
are only like 15 to 20 percent efficient

615
00:25:07,130 --> 00:25:04,799
and the solar heat tubes can be up to

616
00:25:10,130 --> 00:25:07,140
90 percent efficient I believe it

617
00:25:11,750 --> 00:25:10,140
depends on the solar heat tubes but you

618
00:25:13,730 --> 00:25:11,760
can get a lot more energy with less

619
00:25:15,830 --> 00:25:13,740
panels but you can also store that

620
00:25:18,289 --> 00:25:15,840
energy at any speed

621
00:25:20,930 --> 00:25:18,299
the mass doesn't care how fast you want

622
00:25:23,029 --> 00:25:20,940
to put the energy in there so if you're

623
00:25:25,909 --> 00:25:23,039
the sun's only out for a couple hours in

624
00:25:28,669 --> 00:25:25,919
the winter time and you have a big solar

625
00:25:30,590 --> 00:25:28,679
heat tube array you can just store all

626
00:25:33,890 --> 00:25:30,600
that energy like it's a capacitor

627
00:25:36,590 --> 00:25:33,900
because capacitors can absorb a ton of

628
00:25:38,750 --> 00:25:36,600
energy instantly but you can also store

629
00:25:42,409 --> 00:25:38,760
way more energy for a cheaper price

630
00:25:44,690 --> 00:25:42,419
because your mass is basically free say

631
00:25:46,669 --> 00:25:44,700
you use sand or dirt

632
00:25:49,130 --> 00:25:46,679
yeah the batteries are dirt cheap in

633
00:25:50,990 --> 00:25:49,140
there you know eco-friendly and they're

634
00:25:54,529 --> 00:25:51,000
gonna last forever another problem with

635
00:25:57,110 --> 00:25:54,539
solar systems is the batteries need to

636
00:25:59,149 --> 00:25:57,120
be replaced every you know two to eight

637
00:26:01,610 --> 00:25:59,159
years depending on the battery and they

638
00:26:03,950 --> 00:26:01,620
only really last about eight years if

639
00:26:06,169 --> 00:26:03,960
they are maintained perfectly a lot of

640
00:26:07,669 --> 00:26:06,179
people they don't know how to properly

641
00:26:09,950 --> 00:26:07,679
maintain their batteries so

642
00:26:12,529 --> 00:26:09,960
realistically unless you're a solar

643
00:26:15,350 --> 00:26:12,539
technician you could end up just

644
00:26:19,010 --> 00:26:15,360
destroying your batteries in a year or

645
00:26:22,370 --> 00:26:19,020
less so it's like a fail-proof system

646
00:26:24,890 --> 00:26:22,380
for your batteries you can store a lot

647
00:26:27,409 --> 00:26:24,900
more energy A lot faster and then when

648
00:26:32,149 --> 00:26:27,419
you can't store if you don't have enough

649
00:26:34,490 --> 00:26:32,159
solar in the winter time you can use all

650
00:26:37,430 --> 00:26:34,500
the fuels that you could possibly think

651
00:26:39,890 --> 00:26:37,440
of whatever you've got to make up for

652
00:26:41,930 --> 00:26:39,900
when the sun's not there and you don't

653
00:26:44,090 --> 00:26:41,940
have enough energy stored

654
00:26:45,890 --> 00:26:44,100
right very interesting that's another

655
00:26:47,810 --> 00:26:45,900
thing that I think a lot of people be

656
00:26:51,890 --> 00:26:47,820
surprised by you're not using batteries

657
00:26:54,710 --> 00:26:51,900
you're storing the energy in Mass this

658
00:26:56,210 --> 00:26:54,720
comes from the description of Jeremiah's

659
00:26:58,490 --> 00:26:56,220
latest presentation but it kind of fits

660
00:27:00,890 --> 00:26:58,500
in here with what you're saying it says

661
00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:00,900
another benefit from the Tesla turbine

662
00:27:06,890 --> 00:27:04,320
is 96 percent efficient solar

663
00:27:09,590 --> 00:27:06,900
it's about time the world used solar

664
00:27:11,390 --> 00:27:09,600
heat collection for electrical energy on

665
00:27:13,250 --> 00:27:11,400
a mass scale today's electrical solar

666
00:27:15,590 --> 00:27:13,260
panels are only 15 to 19 percent

667
00:27:17,450 --> 00:27:15,600
efficient with all this extra power from

668
00:27:20,149 --> 00:27:17,460
the Sun there's only one problem how do

669
00:27:22,669 --> 00:27:20,159
you store all that energy the answer is

670
00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:22,679
water water can store enormous amounts

671
00:27:26,350 --> 00:27:24,480
of energy in the form of heat and it's

672
00:27:28,850 --> 00:27:26,360
clean cheap and available to everyone

673
00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:28,860
and I guess you're saying the next

674
00:27:33,470 --> 00:27:30,720
advancement is you can just store this

675
00:27:35,450 --> 00:27:33,480
in dirt or other

676
00:27:37,310 --> 00:27:35,460
you know natural materials I think

677
00:27:40,250 --> 00:27:37,320
concrete was also mentioned in one of

678
00:27:43,130 --> 00:27:40,260
your slides but that's very exciting

679
00:27:45,350 --> 00:27:43,140
obviously dirt water and concrete aren't

680
00:27:46,610 --> 00:27:45,360
going to break down like batteries

681
00:27:49,669 --> 00:27:46,620
they're not going to end up in the

682
00:27:51,710 --> 00:27:49,679
landfill like batteries and that's just

683
00:27:52,850 --> 00:27:51,720
an interesting thing I think it might

684
00:27:55,430 --> 00:27:52,860
surprise people

685
00:27:59,090 --> 00:27:55,440
you also don't need to mine precious

686
00:28:01,250 --> 00:27:59,100
metals and have super Advanced factories

687
00:28:04,130 --> 00:28:01,260
to build the batteries

688
00:28:07,250 --> 00:28:04,140
they say that it takes more coal more

689
00:28:09,350 --> 00:28:07,260
emissions to mine the precious metals

690
00:28:11,930 --> 00:28:09,360
that the batteries are made of then you

691
00:28:14,090 --> 00:28:11,940
actually save by using the batteries in

692
00:28:15,230 --> 00:28:14,100
the first place hmm

693
00:28:17,450 --> 00:28:15,240
damn

694
00:28:19,909 --> 00:28:17,460
and Aaron I wanted to see if you could

695
00:28:22,070 --> 00:28:19,919
add a bit here about solar batteries you

696
00:28:24,470 --> 00:28:22,080
have an e-book on the site called solar

697
00:28:27,950 --> 00:28:24,480
Secrets debunking the myths of the solar

698
00:28:30,529 --> 00:28:27,960
industry by Peter Lindemann and some of

699
00:28:32,930 --> 00:28:30,539
its contents include the biggest myth

700
00:28:34,730 --> 00:28:32,940
about solar panel efficiency the one

701
00:28:36,649 --> 00:28:34,740
type of solar panel the industry doesn't

702
00:28:38,570 --> 00:28:36,659
want you to know about the key to

703
00:28:41,149 --> 00:28:38,580
rebuilding the battery to like new

704
00:28:43,789 --> 00:28:41,159
conditions on every single charge and

705
00:28:45,470 --> 00:28:43,799
getting more to your batteries from your

706
00:28:47,930 --> 00:28:45,480
panels than has ever been thought

707
00:28:50,210 --> 00:28:47,940
possible can you talk to us a bit about

708
00:28:53,090 --> 00:28:50,220
this seems like we have a planned

709
00:28:55,070 --> 00:28:53,100
obsolescence battery cartel in action

710
00:28:56,870 --> 00:28:55,080
and this might be totally different

711
00:28:58,430 --> 00:28:56,880
mechanisms but there's apparently a lot

712
00:28:59,390 --> 00:28:58,440
of Secrets the industry doesn't want you

713
00:29:01,370 --> 00:28:59,400
to know

714
00:29:02,570 --> 00:29:01,380
sure they want to sell batteries they

715
00:29:04,490 --> 00:29:02,580
don't want you to have a battery that

716
00:29:06,529 --> 00:29:04,500
lasts too long because they're all about

717
00:29:07,909 --> 00:29:06,539
the recurring income which I don't

718
00:29:10,549 --> 00:29:07,919
necessarily blame them if they want a

719
00:29:12,649 --> 00:29:10,559
sustainable business model but batteries

720
00:29:14,990 --> 00:29:12,659
are really kind of a perfect water fuel

721
00:29:17,690 --> 00:29:15,000
cell it's either making or breaking a

722
00:29:20,210 --> 00:29:17,700
water molecule depending on if you are

723
00:29:22,310 --> 00:29:20,220
pulling electricity from it or putting

724
00:29:24,190 --> 00:29:22,320
electricity back into the battery so

725
00:29:26,510 --> 00:29:24,200
free solar Secrets is available on

726
00:29:29,330 --> 00:29:26,520
emediapress.com it's been a free

727
00:29:32,389 --> 00:29:29,340
download for quite a few years now and

728
00:29:34,669 --> 00:29:32,399
in the past when John bedini was still

729
00:29:36,590 --> 00:29:34,679
alive he was Manufacturing

730
00:29:38,330 --> 00:29:36,600
battery chargers and solar charge

731
00:29:40,130 --> 00:29:38,340
controllers that could give a

732
00:29:43,490 --> 00:29:40,140
theoretical infinite lifespan to lead

733
00:29:45,049 --> 00:29:43,500
acid batteries because with all the

734
00:29:48,169 --> 00:29:45,059
research and development that was done

735
00:29:50,630 --> 00:29:48,179
through his shop in the well actually

736
00:29:52,610 --> 00:29:50,640
going back to the 70s

737
00:29:55,130 --> 00:29:52,620
but more for commercial applications in

738
00:29:56,269 --> 00:29:55,140
the early 2000s when Peter Lindemann

739
00:29:58,730 --> 00:29:56,279
worked with him

740
00:30:01,370 --> 00:29:58,740
all these developments really came about

741
00:30:03,769 --> 00:30:01,380
to show how a lead acid battery likes to

742
00:30:06,289 --> 00:30:03,779
be charged and the solar charge

743
00:30:08,210 --> 00:30:06,299
controllers and battery chargers slash

744
00:30:10,549 --> 00:30:08,220
rejuvenators that were manufactured by

745
00:30:13,430 --> 00:30:10,559
John bedini's company were the only ones

746
00:30:15,409 --> 00:30:13,440
in the world that actually charged a

747
00:30:18,769 --> 00:30:15,419
lead acid battery the way it likes to be

748
00:30:21,350 --> 00:30:18,779
charged so one of the secrets in that

749
00:30:23,630 --> 00:30:21,360
book and that book is going to remain a

750
00:30:26,690 --> 00:30:23,640
free download for a short period of time

751
00:30:28,190 --> 00:30:26,700
at the conference last month which is

752
00:30:29,990 --> 00:30:28,200
our 11th annual energy science

753
00:30:32,750 --> 00:30:30,000
technology conference

754
00:30:34,850 --> 00:30:32,760
Peter Lindemann gave a presentation on

755
00:30:37,909 --> 00:30:34,860
Advanced solar methods where we're

756
00:30:39,950 --> 00:30:37,919
showing a successful system implementing

757
00:30:43,010 --> 00:30:39,960
the concepts that we have been teaching

758
00:30:46,310 --> 00:30:43,020
for years and it's a friend of ours Al

759
00:30:49,010 --> 00:30:46,320
Frank core up in Yak BC and his

760
00:30:50,870 --> 00:30:49,020
batteries are all charged by 2 p.m in

761
00:30:53,570 --> 00:30:50,880
the afternoon regardless of how much sun

762
00:30:55,730 --> 00:30:53,580
there is and so with the batteries

763
00:30:58,490 --> 00:30:55,740
what's been known for about a century

764
00:31:00,350 --> 00:30:58,500
and this came out of a book that John

765
00:31:02,269 --> 00:31:00,360
bedini and Peter and the rest of us

766
00:31:04,010 --> 00:31:02,279
called the battery Bible

767
00:31:05,330 --> 00:31:04,020
it was written by somebody who was

768
00:31:07,070 --> 00:31:05,340
teaching Farmers how to keep their

769
00:31:09,230 --> 00:31:07,080
batteries pretty much indefinitely good

770
00:31:10,909 --> 00:31:09,240
for powering milking machines on the

771
00:31:14,149 --> 00:31:10,919
farm for example

772
00:31:16,370 --> 00:31:14,159
and what they see is that as the battery

773
00:31:17,990 --> 00:31:16,380
is getting charged you know for example

774
00:31:20,029 --> 00:31:18,000
an alternator in the car might push your

775
00:31:21,710 --> 00:31:20,039
battery to 13.8

776
00:31:23,149 --> 00:31:21,720
some solar charge controllers and

777
00:31:25,850 --> 00:31:23,159
battery chargers might charge the

778
00:31:28,250 --> 00:31:25,860
battery to the low 14s and people are

779
00:31:30,289 --> 00:31:28,260
conditioned to believe that when you're

780
00:31:33,590 --> 00:31:30,299
done charging it and you see the voltage

781
00:31:35,269 --> 00:31:33,600
come down if it's 12.6 and above then it

782
00:31:36,769 --> 00:31:35,279
must be charged but nothing could be

783
00:31:39,310 --> 00:31:36,779
further from the truth because the

784
00:31:42,769 --> 00:31:39,320
voltage is not an indication of how much

785
00:31:45,769 --> 00:31:42,779
capacity that battery actually has and

786
00:31:47,990 --> 00:31:45,779
so what we see is that once you start

787
00:31:50,690 --> 00:31:48,000
charging the voltage you start bringing

788
00:31:54,769 --> 00:31:50,700
the voltage up to the high 13s you start

789
00:31:56,690 --> 00:31:54,779
getting up into the mid to high 14s

790
00:31:58,970 --> 00:31:56,700
the voltage level starts to kind of

791
00:32:03,889 --> 00:31:58,980
plateau a little bit and if you push it

792
00:32:07,610 --> 00:32:03,899
to 15 15 1 15 2 15 3 right around there

793
00:32:10,130 --> 00:32:07,620
it'll plateau and then what you see is

794
00:32:12,110 --> 00:32:10,140
that the voltage actually drops

795
00:32:14,389 --> 00:32:12,120
a little bit and when you see that

796
00:32:16,850 --> 00:32:14,399
voltage drop that means that the final

797
00:32:18,950 --> 00:32:16,860
layers of sulfation have dissolved back

798
00:32:20,810 --> 00:32:18,960
into the electrolyte and you basically

799
00:32:23,750 --> 00:32:20,820
reverse the chemistry to a like new

800
00:32:26,330 --> 00:32:23,760
status what that voltage drop indicates

801
00:32:29,330 --> 00:32:26,340
is that the impedance which is like a

802
00:32:31,730 --> 00:32:29,340
resistance in the battery has dropped

803
00:32:33,610 --> 00:32:31,740
because if you still have sulfation on a

804
00:32:36,169 --> 00:32:33,620
plate that means there's less

805
00:32:37,789 --> 00:32:36,179
electrolyte in the solution and you have

806
00:32:41,450 --> 00:32:37,799
more distilled water than you do the

807
00:32:43,430 --> 00:32:41,460
sodium or the sulfuric acid solution the

808
00:32:45,830 --> 00:32:43,440
more sulfuric acid is dissolved in the

809
00:32:47,810 --> 00:32:45,840
solution the more conductive it is which

810
00:32:49,669 --> 00:32:47,820
means there's less resistance to the

811
00:32:51,649 --> 00:32:49,679
current moving through the battery but

812
00:32:54,169 --> 00:32:51,659
when that sulfation goes onto the lead

813
00:32:55,850 --> 00:32:54,179
and that means the battery is sulfated

814
00:32:58,010 --> 00:32:55,860
so to speak

815
00:33:00,049 --> 00:32:58,020
there's less sulfuric acid in the

816
00:33:01,490 --> 00:33:00,059
solution which means it makes it harder

817
00:33:03,409 --> 00:33:01,500
for the current to move through the

818
00:33:05,990 --> 00:33:03,419
battery so when we see that little

819
00:33:08,330 --> 00:33:06,000
voltage drop in the low 15 Volt range

820
00:33:10,130 --> 00:33:08,340
for a flooded cell lead acid battery

821
00:33:11,389 --> 00:33:10,140
which would be like a battery in your

822
00:33:13,310 --> 00:33:11,399
car that you actually have the little

823
00:33:16,310 --> 00:33:13,320
caps you can take off and add distilled

824
00:33:19,250 --> 00:33:16,320
water to it that kind of battery at that

825
00:33:21,049 --> 00:33:19,260
low 15 volt level you will see that

826
00:33:23,330 --> 00:33:21,059
little voltage drop which means the

827
00:33:25,009 --> 00:33:23,340
final layers of sulfation dissolve back

828
00:33:27,889 --> 00:33:25,019
into the solution making it more

829
00:33:30,049 --> 00:33:27,899
conductive so that's why the voltage

830
00:33:32,509 --> 00:33:30,059
drops not only does the current move

831
00:33:34,190 --> 00:33:32,519
through more easily but the voltage is

832
00:33:35,810 --> 00:33:34,200
moving through the battery more easy as

833
00:33:37,549 --> 00:33:35,820
well so it's like there's less back

834
00:33:39,169 --> 00:33:37,559
pressure to it you know if you put a

835
00:33:41,389 --> 00:33:39,179
potato and a tailpipe of a running

836
00:33:43,190 --> 00:33:41,399
engine it'll stall it out because

837
00:33:45,470 --> 00:33:43,200
there's so much back pressure that the

838
00:33:47,450 --> 00:33:45,480
engine can't turn over because there's

839
00:33:49,909 --> 00:33:47,460
too much back pressure holding it back

840
00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:49,919
but the pressure will go up

841
00:33:53,389 --> 00:33:51,840
quite a bit and then it'll just stall

842
00:33:55,130 --> 00:33:53,399
out and that's kind of what the

843
00:33:56,570 --> 00:33:55,140
sulfation is in a battery is kind of

844
00:33:58,070 --> 00:33:56,580
like putting a potato in a tailpipe

845
00:34:00,110 --> 00:33:58,080
where you have too much back pressure to

846
00:34:02,149 --> 00:34:00,120
the flow of electricity so the pressure

847
00:34:04,250 --> 00:34:02,159
goes up and the voltage is up but if you

848
00:34:05,570 --> 00:34:04,260
remove that potato that pressure would

849
00:34:08,450 --> 00:34:05,580
suddenly drop and that's what that

850
00:34:10,669 --> 00:34:08,460
little voltage drop is so all of

851
00:34:12,530 --> 00:34:10,679
bedini's battery chargers and

852
00:34:14,930 --> 00:34:12,540
rejuvenators took the lead acid

853
00:34:17,210 --> 00:34:14,940
batteries through that process to bring

854
00:34:19,609 --> 00:34:17,220
it up look for that little drop and then

855
00:34:21,950 --> 00:34:19,619
you can reuse the battery and as long as

856
00:34:24,349 --> 00:34:21,960
the battery was constantly charged by

857
00:34:26,149 --> 00:34:24,359
that method it would just stay good I

858
00:34:27,889 --> 00:34:26,159
mean he had car starter batteries that

859
00:34:30,409 --> 00:34:27,899
were over 20 years old that still worked

860
00:34:32,329 --> 00:34:30,419
like new you know people have these car

861
00:34:34,970 --> 00:34:32,339
batteries they might be replacing them

862
00:34:36,409 --> 00:34:34,980
every several years well it's no wonder

863
00:34:38,869 --> 00:34:36,419
because the alternator is going to push

864
00:34:40,970 --> 00:34:38,879
it to about maybe 13.8 volts or

865
00:34:43,070 --> 00:34:40,980
something like that

866
00:34:44,750 --> 00:34:43,080
and it's going to appear that the

867
00:34:46,849 --> 00:34:44,760
battery is charged but there's a lot of

868
00:34:48,109 --> 00:34:46,859
sulfation still on there you know and

869
00:34:49,790 --> 00:34:48,119
you look at the batteries in general

870
00:34:52,550 --> 00:34:49,800
it's like well what's the difference

871
00:34:54,589 --> 00:34:52,560
between a 36 month battery or 48 month

872
00:34:56,570 --> 00:34:54,599
battery well the main difference is that

873
00:34:59,089 --> 00:34:56,580
the 48 much battery has more space at

874
00:35:02,210 --> 00:34:59,099
the bottom of the battery for Junk to

875
00:35:03,829 --> 00:35:02,220
fall off the plates until it settles

876
00:35:06,589 --> 00:35:03,839
enough junk in the bottom of the battery

877
00:35:08,329 --> 00:35:06,599
to short the sales out huh you know so

878
00:35:10,569 --> 00:35:08,339
when we look at it like that it's like

879
00:35:13,069 --> 00:35:10,579
you know do people really understand

880
00:35:14,630 --> 00:35:13,079
that difference is even there that is

881
00:35:16,250 --> 00:35:14,640
just more space for more jump to fall

882
00:35:18,470 --> 00:35:16,260
off before it shorts out to sell and the

883
00:35:20,210 --> 00:35:18,480
answer is no they just replace it okay

884
00:35:21,710 --> 00:35:20,220
it's 48 months been about four years

885
00:35:24,650 --> 00:35:21,720
five years it's not holding a charge

886
00:35:26,690 --> 00:35:24,660
anymore let's replace it so for example

887
00:35:28,550 --> 00:35:26,700
if you had you know maybe once a month

888
00:35:30,650 --> 00:35:28,560
once every other month you charge that

889
00:35:33,410 --> 00:35:30,660
lead acid battery your starter battery

890
00:35:35,750 --> 00:35:33,420
in your car up to that level once every

891
00:35:37,069 --> 00:35:35,760
month every other month or so that

892
00:35:38,930 --> 00:35:37,079
battery will just keep lasting and

893
00:35:40,730 --> 00:35:38,940
Lasting and Lasting and having it last

894
00:35:42,770 --> 00:35:40,740
you know 10 years is not a problem we've

895
00:35:44,930 --> 00:35:42,780
seen that at over and over and over

896
00:35:46,490 --> 00:35:44,940
so charging the battery to the right

897
00:35:49,550 --> 00:35:46,500
voltage that's one of the most important

898
00:35:51,770 --> 00:35:49,560
things for people to understand and

899
00:35:54,290 --> 00:35:51,780
that's explained in free solar Secrets

900
00:35:56,450 --> 00:35:54,300
but Peter has also given the two most

901
00:35:58,130 --> 00:35:56,460
definitive presentations on lead acid

902
00:36:00,290 --> 00:35:58,140
batteries and how they need to be

903
00:36:02,810 --> 00:36:00,300
charged and rejuvenated and those are

904
00:36:04,609 --> 00:36:02,820
also on emediapress.com

905
00:36:06,950 --> 00:36:04,619
it's called battery secrets and the

906
00:36:08,870 --> 00:36:06,960
other one is battery Rejuvenation and

907
00:36:10,670 --> 00:36:08,880
between those two presentations people

908
00:36:12,650 --> 00:36:10,680
will know more about that acid batteries

909
00:36:15,650 --> 00:36:12,660
than pretty much all the other websites

910
00:36:17,810 --> 00:36:15,660
on the internet combined and you know we

911
00:36:19,190 --> 00:36:17,820
have the results to basically prove that

912
00:36:21,230 --> 00:36:19,200
what we were saying about batteries is

913
00:36:24,770 --> 00:36:21,240
true and

914
00:36:26,630 --> 00:36:24,780
we were able to take like a 80 of the

915
00:36:28,550 --> 00:36:26,640
discarded batteries at the scrap yard

916
00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:28,560
about 80 percent that nobody else could

917
00:36:32,390 --> 00:36:30,720
charge bring back or anything else and

918
00:36:34,550 --> 00:36:32,400
we could bring them back to 80 percent

919
00:36:36,410 --> 00:36:34,560
to a hundred and ten percent of the

920
00:36:38,810 --> 00:36:36,420
manufacturer's rating we could literally

921
00:36:41,569 --> 00:36:38,820
take some batteries that were doomed for

922
00:36:43,010 --> 00:36:41,579
the dump and bring them back to being a

923
00:36:44,270 --> 00:36:43,020
little bit better than the brand new

924
00:36:46,730 --> 00:36:44,280
off-the-shelf

925
00:36:49,010 --> 00:36:46,740
yeah that's amazing I had that written

926
00:36:51,950 --> 00:36:49,020
down from Peter that 80 percent could be

927
00:36:55,190 --> 00:36:51,960
brought back and that's amazing because

928
00:36:57,470 --> 00:36:55,200
there's obviously so much waste in our

929
00:36:59,390 --> 00:36:57,480
system that just ends up out there and

930
00:37:01,430 --> 00:36:59,400
it's toxic and they try to burn it all

931
00:37:04,250 --> 00:37:01,440
in the landfills and it's just a

932
00:37:05,510 --> 00:37:04,260
nightmare situation and let me ask you

933
00:37:08,210 --> 00:37:05,520
this because we're talking a little bit

934
00:37:10,190 --> 00:37:08,220
about renewable energies and solar and

935
00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:10,200
obviously we have this push for wind and

936
00:37:15,050 --> 00:37:12,240
solar and sometimes people can get

937
00:37:17,630 --> 00:37:15,060
triggered by this and look when people

938
00:37:19,490 --> 00:37:17,640
talk about climate change and this new

939
00:37:22,010 --> 00:37:19,500
green deal stuff

940
00:37:25,790 --> 00:37:22,020
you know obviously they are pushing for

941
00:37:28,550 --> 00:37:25,800
these other Energy Systems and the

942
00:37:31,069 --> 00:37:28,560
concern is that our electrical grid as

943
00:37:33,290 --> 00:37:31,079
it stands can barely meet our needs as

944
00:37:35,630 --> 00:37:33,300
it is we have blackouts and brownouts

945
00:37:38,750 --> 00:37:35,640
and outages all over this country if we

946
00:37:40,609 --> 00:37:38,760
add a few million say electric cars well

947
00:37:43,010 --> 00:37:40,619
what's that going to do most of the

948
00:37:46,250 --> 00:37:43,020
electricity comes from coal anyway I

949
00:37:49,370 --> 00:37:46,260
understand but we should all be able to

950
00:37:51,890 --> 00:37:49,380
acknowledge agendas aside that we want A

951
00:37:53,810 --> 00:37:51,900
Cleaner World it just seems like a

952
00:37:56,210 --> 00:37:53,820
no-brainer obviously but the string

953
00:37:59,270 --> 00:37:56,220
pullers seem like they're trying to use

954
00:38:01,430 --> 00:37:59,280
that desire to steer us into systems

955
00:38:04,670 --> 00:38:01,440
that don't expose this alternative

956
00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:04,680
Paradigm as well as offer them more

957
00:38:09,950 --> 00:38:08,160
control and US less freedom is that fair

958
00:38:12,470 --> 00:38:09,960
to say do you guys have any thoughts on

959
00:38:14,630 --> 00:38:12,480
the conventional push to Green Energy

960
00:38:16,790 --> 00:38:14,640
Systems versus what you guys are doing

961
00:38:18,829 --> 00:38:16,800
because it seems like if they really

962
00:38:21,530 --> 00:38:18,839
wanted A Cleaner World if they really

963
00:38:23,630 --> 00:38:21,540
wanted to go to new systems they should

964
00:38:26,750 --> 00:38:23,640
be talking to you

965
00:38:29,690 --> 00:38:26,760
it seems like even with the or the

966
00:38:31,430 --> 00:38:29,700
systems that we have today to get us on

967
00:38:33,230 --> 00:38:31,440
green energy aren't good enough to

968
00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:33,240
actually do it and I think they know

969
00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:34,800
that too

970
00:38:38,210 --> 00:38:36,720
the only thing it's really doing for us

971
00:38:40,370 --> 00:38:38,220
right now is

972
00:38:42,170 --> 00:38:40,380
giving them an excuse to charge us more

973
00:38:43,670 --> 00:38:42,180
for the oil

974
00:38:46,550 --> 00:38:43,680
so they're actually not getting any

975
00:38:48,109 --> 00:38:46,560
closer to having green energy or just

976
00:38:49,609 --> 00:38:48,119
paying more for the oil

977
00:38:51,410 --> 00:38:49,619
hahaha

978
00:38:52,970 --> 00:38:51,420
I agree Aaron do you have any thoughts

979
00:38:54,710 --> 00:38:52,980
on that I know it's going to come up in

980
00:38:57,770 --> 00:38:54,720
the comments around here

981
00:38:59,810 --> 00:38:57,780
yeah no I I agree with Jeremiah how's

982
00:39:01,670 --> 00:38:59,820
everybody going to transition to you

983
00:39:03,109 --> 00:39:01,680
know electric cars for example

984
00:39:05,210 --> 00:39:03,119
when first of all there's not enough

985
00:39:08,990 --> 00:39:05,220
lithium that's an environmental

986
00:39:11,089 --> 00:39:09,000
catastrophe on its own and

987
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:11,099
you know if half the country is powered

988
00:39:14,690 --> 00:39:12,960
by coal well that means half the

989
00:39:17,089 --> 00:39:14,700
electric cars are essentially coal

990
00:39:18,650 --> 00:39:17,099
powered and so you know where are the

991
00:39:20,089 --> 00:39:18,660
real solutions you know I think they

992
00:39:21,589 --> 00:39:20,099
ought to be looking at the internal

993
00:39:24,170 --> 00:39:21,599
combustion engine because there's a lot

994
00:39:25,970 --> 00:39:24,180
of enhancements that a lot of these

995
00:39:29,089 --> 00:39:25,980
automobile manufacturers have patents on

996
00:39:31,130 --> 00:39:29,099
all kinds of things that could you know

997
00:39:33,230 --> 00:39:31,140
crank up the thermal efficiency of all

998
00:39:34,849 --> 00:39:33,240
the engines already so

999
00:39:37,210 --> 00:39:34,859
if for example you're able to increase

1000
00:39:40,010 --> 00:39:37,220
mileage by maybe 30 percent 50 percent

1001
00:39:41,569 --> 00:39:40,020
that seems to be you know more of a low

1002
00:39:43,250 --> 00:39:41,579
hanging fruit why don't they go that

1003
00:39:44,750 --> 00:39:43,260
route you know I don't know what the

1004
00:39:46,670 --> 00:39:44,760
whole agenda is behind the scenes with

1005
00:39:48,589 --> 00:39:46,680
the oil industry and the lithium Mining

1006
00:39:49,670 --> 00:39:48,599
and all that but none of the solutions

1007
00:39:50,810 --> 00:39:49,680
they're presenting are actually

1008
00:39:53,150 --> 00:39:50,820
Solutions

1009
00:39:54,829 --> 00:39:53,160
they really are causing more problems I

1010
00:39:56,569 --> 00:39:54,839
mean if you look at all the big windmill

1011
00:39:59,750 --> 00:39:56,579
farms none of those things are even

1012
00:40:02,510 --> 00:39:59,760
recyclable they have big burial mounds

1013
00:40:04,010 --> 00:40:02,520
full of these damaged and discarded

1014
00:40:04,790 --> 00:40:04,020
blades because they can't even recycle

1015
00:40:07,310 --> 00:40:04,800
them

1016
00:40:09,829 --> 00:40:07,320
so that whole wind industry can't even

1017
00:40:12,950 --> 00:40:09,839
survive without the money coming from

1018
00:40:14,990 --> 00:40:12,960
the taxpayer money from the government

1019
00:40:17,390 --> 00:40:15,000
so it looks kind of like a effort and

1020
00:40:20,750 --> 00:40:17,400
futility you know there's all this stuff

1021
00:40:23,150 --> 00:40:20,760
with this you know solar stuff several

1022
00:40:24,710 --> 00:40:23,160
years back that looks like

1023
00:40:26,930 --> 00:40:24,720
I don't know it just looks like one scam

1024
00:40:29,089 --> 00:40:26,940
right after another I mean but the other

1025
00:40:30,109 --> 00:40:29,099
thing is is even with solar you know

1026
00:40:33,470 --> 00:40:30,119
look at

1027
00:40:37,010 --> 00:40:33,480
the kind of documents that have come

1028
00:40:39,170 --> 00:40:37,020
forward over the years about you know

1029
00:40:41,150 --> 00:40:39,180
different National Security acts and

1030
00:40:42,530 --> 00:40:41,160
dealing with patents and stuff like that

1031
00:40:45,829 --> 00:40:42,540
and it's already like thousands of

1032
00:40:47,810 --> 00:40:45,839
patents have been covered up for one

1033
00:40:49,609 --> 00:40:47,820
reason or another and there was one

1034
00:40:52,130 --> 00:40:49,619
document we came across and it's posted

1035
00:40:54,829 --> 00:40:52,140
in one of my websites energeticforum.com

1036
00:40:56,569 --> 00:40:54,839
was that solar panels were not really

1037
00:40:59,210 --> 00:40:56,579
supposed to have any efficiency over 20

1038
00:41:02,270 --> 00:40:59,220
and if it was it was

1039
00:41:04,130 --> 00:41:02,280
deemed worthy of basically being

1040
00:41:07,670 --> 00:41:04,140
suppressed under those patent security

1041
00:41:09,950 --> 00:41:07,680
Acts so literally it's almost like it's

1042
00:41:11,210 --> 00:41:09,960
illegal to have solar panel over 20

1043
00:41:14,030 --> 00:41:11,220
efficient

1044
00:41:15,950 --> 00:41:14,040
so I I don't know you know what I look

1045
00:41:17,150 --> 00:41:15,960
at is like you're saying we all want to

1046
00:41:19,370 --> 00:41:17,160
breathe clean air we want to have a

1047
00:41:21,530 --> 00:41:19,380
clean world and whether or not somebody

1048
00:41:23,150 --> 00:41:21,540
believes in a climate change or what's

1049
00:41:25,069 --> 00:41:23,160
going on

1050
00:41:27,470 --> 00:41:25,079
if we're just working on technologies

1051
00:41:28,849 --> 00:41:27,480
that eliminate pollution and that kind

1052
00:41:31,370 --> 00:41:28,859
of thing you know we should all be on

1053
00:41:33,050 --> 00:41:31,380
the same team you know it's kind of hard

1054
00:41:35,690 --> 00:41:33,060
to figure out what's going on but all I

1055
00:41:38,690 --> 00:41:35,700
know is I just do my best to surround

1056
00:41:40,310 --> 00:41:38,700
myself with people who uh I admire I

1057
00:41:42,650 --> 00:41:40,320
trust I know that they're working on

1058
00:41:44,870 --> 00:41:42,660
things that actually work and that's

1059
00:41:46,730 --> 00:41:44,880
where I kind of put my focus

1060
00:41:48,950 --> 00:41:46,740
years ago I'd look into a lot of the

1061
00:41:50,510 --> 00:41:48,960
conspiracy stuff and research one

1062
00:41:52,970 --> 00:41:50,520
website to another to kind of see what's

1063
00:41:54,890 --> 00:41:52,980
going on but it's been kind of a while

1064
00:41:56,990 --> 00:41:54,900
since I've done that and so I just kind

1065
00:41:58,370 --> 00:41:57,000
of go with the flow with you know who I

1066
00:42:00,710 --> 00:41:58,380
work with and see how kind of things

1067
00:42:03,170 --> 00:42:00,720
kind of manifest on their own and I

1068
00:42:04,670 --> 00:42:03,180
think we're doing a pretty good job but

1069
00:42:06,890 --> 00:42:04,680
the conference has made a big difference

1070
00:42:08,510 --> 00:42:06,900
for a lot of people because they're able

1071
00:42:11,089 --> 00:42:08,520
to see a lot of demos that actually work

1072
00:42:13,609 --> 00:42:11,099
a lot of these things work contrary to

1073
00:42:15,470 --> 00:42:13,619
what conventional physics says is

1074
00:42:17,450 --> 00:42:15,480
possible

1075
00:42:20,390 --> 00:42:17,460
we've demonstrated it over and over over

1076
00:42:23,089 --> 00:42:20,400
the years you know this past July was

1077
00:42:25,490 --> 00:42:23,099
our 11th annual conference and we've

1078
00:42:27,170 --> 00:42:25,500
shown probably 10 or 11 systems that

1079
00:42:29,510 --> 00:42:27,180
produce more net

1080
00:42:30,650 --> 00:42:29,520
work on the output than what it takes to

1081
00:42:33,470 --> 00:42:30,660
run them

1082
00:42:35,089 --> 00:42:33,480
and I think that's what everybody really

1083
00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:35,099
needs to start looking at and it doesn't

1084
00:42:39,230 --> 00:42:37,440
mean more is going out and going in the

1085
00:42:41,510 --> 00:42:39,240
s'mores going out than what we put in

1086
00:42:43,250 --> 00:42:41,520
which means the extra input is obviously

1087
00:42:46,069 --> 00:42:43,260
coming from free environmental input

1088
00:42:47,930 --> 00:42:46,079
whether it's heat sunshine or whatever

1089
00:42:51,710 --> 00:42:47,940
else you know those are all legitimate

1090
00:42:53,150 --> 00:42:51,720
free energy systems and I think that a

1091
00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:53,160
lot of people in the so-called green

1092
00:42:56,690 --> 00:42:54,720
energy world and people who are

1093
00:42:59,510 --> 00:42:56,700
concerned about climate you know

1094
00:43:01,849 --> 00:42:59,520
whatever the reality tall that is should

1095
00:43:05,089 --> 00:43:01,859
start looking at open systems because

1096
00:43:07,550 --> 00:43:05,099
those are the principles that Empower

1097
00:43:09,349 --> 00:43:07,560
everybody's mindset to see that there

1098
00:43:11,150 --> 00:43:09,359
really is an abundance of potential all

1099
00:43:13,370 --> 00:43:11,160
over the place it's dripping off the

1100
00:43:16,069 --> 00:43:13,380
walls and there's a lot of systems that

1101
00:43:18,230 --> 00:43:16,079
could be implemented and designed that

1102
00:43:19,250 --> 00:43:18,240
actually takes that into account so I

1103
00:43:20,690 --> 00:43:19,260
think we're moving in the right

1104
00:43:22,370 --> 00:43:20,700
direction there's a lot of scary stuff

1105
00:43:24,710 --> 00:43:22,380
going on I don't know how it's all going

1106
00:43:26,290 --> 00:43:24,720
to play out but I just keep my nose to

1107
00:43:28,790 --> 00:43:26,300
the grindstone and keep moving forward

1108
00:43:30,290 --> 00:43:28,800
yeah yeah and I like that approach

1109
00:43:32,510 --> 00:43:30,300
especially at this point having done

1110
00:43:35,450 --> 00:43:32,520
this so myself it's best to just focus

1111
00:43:37,430 --> 00:43:35,460
on the solutions and not get too

1112
00:43:40,250 --> 00:43:37,440
obsessed over the agendas because then

1113
00:43:42,650 --> 00:43:40,260
you give them all your power all your

1114
00:43:44,450 --> 00:43:42,660
thought energy it goes to like oh my God

1115
00:43:45,890 --> 00:43:44,460
what are they trying to do to us instead

1116
00:43:48,109 --> 00:43:45,900
of just being like well what do we want

1117
00:43:50,089 --> 00:43:48,119
to do and so I think you're right on the

1118
00:43:52,490 --> 00:43:50,099
money and I've heard you talk about open

1119
00:43:54,950 --> 00:43:52,500
system thermodynamics that everybody

1120
00:43:58,010 --> 00:43:54,960
should be required to understand that to

1121
00:44:00,349 --> 00:43:58,020
graduate high school and people in the

1122
00:44:01,730 --> 00:44:00,359
energy industry they either don't want

1123
00:44:04,370 --> 00:44:01,740
to look at that or they don't understand

1124
00:44:06,710 --> 00:44:04,380
it and it really is how systems and

1125
00:44:09,829 --> 00:44:06,720
nature work but let me ask you this

1126
00:44:12,050 --> 00:44:09,839
because obviously we do have the issues

1127
00:44:13,490 --> 00:44:12,060
with the patent system that you

1128
00:44:15,710 --> 00:44:13,500
mentioned it seems like there's people

1129
00:44:18,829 --> 00:44:15,720
who monitor the patent system and look

1130
00:44:22,309 --> 00:44:18,839
for certain people trying to patent

1131
00:44:23,870 --> 00:44:22,319
systems that are off limits maybe people

1132
00:44:25,910 --> 00:44:23,880
come through and they purchase these

1133
00:44:28,010 --> 00:44:25,920
Technologies or they and bury them

1134
00:44:29,630 --> 00:44:28,020
rather than develop them or they hire

1135
00:44:32,210 --> 00:44:29,640
these inventors and bring them into

1136
00:44:34,250 --> 00:44:32,220
black projects sometimes even die

1137
00:44:37,790 --> 00:44:34,260
mysteriously these are all things that

1138
00:44:40,849 --> 00:44:37,800
we've seen But critics say that the

1139
00:44:42,650 --> 00:44:40,859
suppression angle is overblown I know

1140
00:44:44,750 --> 00:44:42,660
people who have histories in the tech

1141
00:44:47,690 --> 00:44:44,760
space working with venture capital and

1142
00:44:49,430 --> 00:44:47,700
Angel Investors and securing funding and

1143
00:44:51,890 --> 00:44:49,440
those people really struggle to

1144
00:44:53,690 --> 00:44:51,900
understand how this stuff can work but

1145
00:44:55,309 --> 00:44:53,700
products can't be brought to Market

1146
00:44:57,530 --> 00:44:55,319
especially today with the

1147
00:44:59,930 --> 00:44:57,540
interconnectedness of the internet we

1148
00:45:02,210 --> 00:44:59,940
might have a blockage established in

1149
00:45:05,210 --> 00:45:02,220
Academia this stuff might not be in

1150
00:45:07,849 --> 00:45:05,220
textbooks but why have we gone so long

1151
00:45:10,670 --> 00:45:07,859
without anything truly breaking through

1152
00:45:14,030 --> 00:45:10,680
you said you have 10 or 11 systems

1153
00:45:15,950 --> 00:45:14,040
people can see on display you know

1154
00:45:18,290 --> 00:45:15,960
people can see the presentations at

1155
00:45:20,630 --> 00:45:18,300
these conferences well where can we buy

1156
00:45:22,970 --> 00:45:20,640
this stuff why why are we still not

1157
00:45:26,450 --> 00:45:22,980
there yet do you think

1158
00:45:28,609 --> 00:45:26,460
so for me my introduction to the first

1159
00:45:30,109 --> 00:45:28,619
person who actually had something that

1160
00:45:33,530 --> 00:45:30,119
demonstrated those principles was John

1161
00:45:37,370 --> 00:45:33,540
bedini and he always kept things at kind

1162
00:45:39,109 --> 00:45:37,380
of a small proof of concept level

1163
00:45:41,870 --> 00:45:39,119
he never really tried to put them into

1164
00:45:43,849 --> 00:45:41,880
production or anything and he wanted to

1165
00:45:47,630 --> 00:45:43,859
keep things small you know he was

1166
00:45:50,089 --> 00:45:47,640
threatened back in the 80s after he

1167
00:45:51,410 --> 00:45:50,099
was involved with some people and this

1168
00:45:53,530 --> 00:45:51,420
one machine called the Watson machine

1169
00:45:57,170 --> 00:45:53,540
was shown at one of the Tesla symposiums

1170
00:45:59,030 --> 00:45:57,180
and It produced more work than what you

1171
00:46:00,170 --> 00:45:59,040
have to pay for on the input

1172
00:46:03,470 --> 00:46:00,180
well

1173
00:46:06,109 --> 00:46:03,480
I think the proof of concept thing has

1174
00:46:08,210 --> 00:46:06,119
gone you know so far the little bedini

1175
00:46:10,490 --> 00:46:08,220
SG for example is probably the most

1176
00:46:12,349 --> 00:46:10,500
replicated system that demonstrates

1177
00:46:14,950 --> 00:46:12,359
these principles in the world people

1178
00:46:17,210 --> 00:46:14,960
will not really start to see the true

1179
00:46:18,950 --> 00:46:17,220
so-called free energy gains unless they

1180
00:46:21,170 --> 00:46:18,960
scale it up start going up in voltage

1181
00:46:23,990 --> 00:46:21,180
and that kind of thing but I think it's

1182
00:46:26,450 --> 00:46:24,000
almost kind of changing right now

1183
00:46:28,450 --> 00:46:26,460
in front of my eyes where some of the

1184
00:46:31,370 --> 00:46:28,460
people who have some of these systems

1185
00:46:32,809 --> 00:46:31,380
are moving in a direction of making

1186
00:46:35,710 --> 00:46:32,819
these commercially available whether

1187
00:46:38,450 --> 00:46:35,720
it's going to be kits or whatever

1188
00:46:41,329 --> 00:46:38,460
the suppression thing I don't think that

1189
00:46:43,309 --> 00:46:41,339
that's gone too far in terms of the

1190
00:46:45,829 --> 00:46:43,319
Skeptics or critics of looking at all

1191
00:46:48,050 --> 00:46:45,839
this because you know without naming the

1192
00:46:49,910 --> 00:46:48,060
name one of the largest automobile

1193
00:46:53,150 --> 00:46:49,920
manufacturers in the world an American

1194
00:46:55,010 --> 00:46:53,160
company they're the largest owner of

1195
00:46:57,349 --> 00:46:55,020
third-party patents than any company in

1196
00:46:58,970 --> 00:46:57,359
the world sitting on hundreds if not

1197
00:47:02,089 --> 00:46:58,980
thousands of patents that they just buy

1198
00:47:05,450 --> 00:47:02,099
out I mean if you look at for example

1199
00:47:07,609 --> 00:47:05,460
I have a plasma ignition system that I

1200
00:47:09,829 --> 00:47:07,619
invented that

1201
00:47:12,050 --> 00:47:09,839
so I didn't invent that type of plasma

1202
00:47:15,290 --> 00:47:12,060
this ignition system I'm mentioning can

1203
00:47:17,750 --> 00:47:15,300
instantly dissociate hydrogen from water

1204
00:47:19,490 --> 00:47:17,760
it detonates a hydrogen then that

1205
00:47:22,970 --> 00:47:19,500
hydrogen in turn

1206
00:47:24,890 --> 00:47:22,980
s more of the fuel air mixture in an

1207
00:47:26,510 --> 00:47:24,900
internal combustion engine so you can

1208
00:47:28,069 --> 00:47:26,520
actually greatly lean an engine out

1209
00:47:30,410 --> 00:47:28,079
while simultaneously getting a

1210
00:47:33,109 --> 00:47:30,420
temperature drop which is showing that

1211
00:47:34,910 --> 00:47:33,119
my ignition system greatly increases the

1212
00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:34,920
thermal efficiency of an engine

1213
00:47:40,970 --> 00:47:38,400
so I just invented the most simple and

1214
00:47:43,370 --> 00:47:40,980
practical way to do it

1215
00:47:45,109 --> 00:47:43,380
every automobile manufacturer that I've

1216
00:47:48,050 --> 00:47:45,119
come across and some of the spark plug

1217
00:47:52,130 --> 00:47:48,060
companies some of the universities and

1218
00:47:54,650 --> 00:47:52,140
governmental agencies so like NASA JPL

1219
00:47:57,230 --> 00:47:54,660
and the rest of them they all have

1220
00:47:59,750 --> 00:47:57,240
patents on the Antiquated way of making

1221
00:48:03,349 --> 00:47:59,760
that plasma ignition system since the

1222
00:48:05,030 --> 00:48:03,359
70s possibly as far back as the 60s not

1223
00:48:07,490 --> 00:48:05,040
a single one of them has ever put it

1224
00:48:10,010 --> 00:48:07,500
into production I understand that it

1225
00:48:12,309 --> 00:48:10,020
requires a more sophisticated type of

1226
00:48:15,770 --> 00:48:12,319
spark plug that can hold up to these

1227
00:48:17,930 --> 00:48:15,780
massively powerful impulses

1228
00:48:19,849 --> 00:48:17,940
but they have all the resources to do

1229
00:48:22,910 --> 00:48:19,859
that they're sitting on it any of these

1230
00:48:24,829 --> 00:48:22,920
companies could easily manufacture those

1231
00:48:27,109 --> 00:48:24,839
plugs and put that plasma ignition

1232
00:48:28,910 --> 00:48:27,119
system on their engines and they could

1233
00:48:32,450 --> 00:48:28,920
instantly increase the thermal

1234
00:48:35,809 --> 00:48:32,460
efficiency from uh say a 25 thermal

1235
00:48:36,950 --> 00:48:35,819
efficiency to like 35 or even 40 thermal

1236
00:48:38,809 --> 00:48:36,960
efficiency and they could do it

1237
00:48:40,790 --> 00:48:38,819
overnight with the exact same engines

1238
00:48:43,190 --> 00:48:40,800
they're already Manufacturing

1239
00:48:45,230 --> 00:48:43,200
why aren't they doing it

1240
00:48:46,849 --> 00:48:45,240
they're sitting on those patents so do

1241
00:48:49,309 --> 00:48:46,859
they have intention to actually put

1242
00:48:51,410 --> 00:48:49,319
these into usage someday you know I know

1243
00:48:53,809 --> 00:48:51,420
there's constantly these different

1244
00:48:56,870 --> 00:48:53,819
laws being passed and whatever that they

1245
00:48:59,450 --> 00:48:56,880
have to have X amount of

1246
00:49:01,370 --> 00:48:59,460
miles per gallon you know they're going

1247
00:49:02,750 --> 00:49:01,380
to be getting phased out electric cars

1248
00:49:04,430 --> 00:49:02,760
you know they have to have X amount of

1249
00:49:06,410 --> 00:49:04,440
electric cars coming into play and that

1250
00:49:08,270 --> 00:49:06,420
kind of thing so is it like they're just

1251
00:49:10,309 --> 00:49:08,280
kind of milking what they have right now

1252
00:49:12,349 --> 00:49:10,319
because see the plasma ignition it can

1253
00:49:14,150 --> 00:49:12,359
make your engine run cleaner that means

1254
00:49:15,589 --> 00:49:14,160
there's less maintenance which means

1255
00:49:18,530 --> 00:49:15,599
your engine is going to last longer and

1256
00:49:21,349 --> 00:49:18,540
you have less need for repair less need

1257
00:49:23,390 --> 00:49:21,359
for oil changes as often and that kind

1258
00:49:25,730 --> 00:49:23,400
of thing you know I had a friend who ran

1259
00:49:27,950 --> 00:49:25,740
a dealership over in the Seattle area

1260
00:49:28,910 --> 00:49:27,960
and he said all the profits from the

1261
00:49:31,309 --> 00:49:28,920
cars

1262
00:49:32,450 --> 00:49:31,319
solely go to covering the overhead of

1263
00:49:36,290 --> 00:49:32,460
the dealership

1264
00:49:38,030 --> 00:49:36,300
and the profits come from the garage all

1265
00:49:39,670 --> 00:49:38,040
the maintenance the oil changes the

1266
00:49:43,130 --> 00:49:39,680
brake changes and all that kind of stuff

1267
00:49:44,870 --> 00:49:43,140
so if they put a system like that in an

1268
00:49:46,430 --> 00:49:44,880
engine and made it run cleaner that

1269
00:49:48,470 --> 00:49:46,440
means you have less oil changes you're

1270
00:49:50,450 --> 00:49:48,480
getting at the dealership that's less

1271
00:49:52,430 --> 00:49:50,460
spark plug changes

1272
00:49:54,050 --> 00:49:52,440
because anytime there's carbon that's

1273
00:49:55,490 --> 00:49:54,060
going to be one of the sources of a lot

1274
00:49:59,150 --> 00:49:55,500
of the maintenance in an automobile

1275
00:50:01,190 --> 00:49:59,160
engine so that's going to be reducing

1276
00:50:04,130 --> 00:50:01,200
their profit source

1277
00:50:06,109 --> 00:50:04,140
so you know is it a conspiracy or is it

1278
00:50:08,390 --> 00:50:06,119
just good business for them I think it's

1279
00:50:09,710 --> 00:50:08,400
basically good business for them and

1280
00:50:12,470 --> 00:50:09,720
they would kind of be shooting their

1281
00:50:14,750 --> 00:50:12,480
self in the foot by doing that so in a

1282
00:50:16,609 --> 00:50:14,760
way they can't be completely at blame

1283
00:50:18,050 --> 00:50:16,619
for not wanting some of these things to

1284
00:50:19,190 --> 00:50:18,060
come forward because it would jeopardize

1285
00:50:21,530 --> 00:50:19,200
their whole

1286
00:50:22,790 --> 00:50:21,540
profit model and profits for the

1287
00:50:24,710 --> 00:50:22,800
shareholders and that kind of thing so

1288
00:50:26,030 --> 00:50:24,720
what do you do right you know I mean is

1289
00:50:28,190 --> 00:50:26,040
it is it only going to stay at a

1290
00:50:29,809 --> 00:50:28,200
Grassroots level where people can buy my

1291
00:50:31,550 --> 00:50:29,819
book or video learn about the plasma

1292
00:50:33,829 --> 00:50:31,560
ignition put it on their own car and get

1293
00:50:35,569 --> 00:50:33,839
the benefits or is it actually going to

1294
00:50:37,670 --> 00:50:35,579
be something that auto manufacturers can

1295
00:50:39,410 --> 00:50:37,680
actually start putting into their

1296
00:50:41,569 --> 00:50:39,420
vehicles and not worry about it and

1297
00:50:44,030 --> 00:50:41,579
start getting a different mindset that

1298
00:50:45,349 --> 00:50:44,040
hey we're going to be the first internal

1299
00:50:47,329 --> 00:50:45,359
combustion engine automobile

1300
00:50:49,309 --> 00:50:47,339
manufacturer who's going to put an

1301
00:50:50,990 --> 00:50:49,319
engine out there with the highest

1302
00:50:52,490 --> 00:50:51,000
thermal efficiency you only have to

1303
00:50:54,650 --> 00:50:52,500
change the oil maybe once every two

1304
00:50:56,510 --> 00:50:54,660
years you never have to change a spark

1305
00:50:58,309 --> 00:50:56,520
plug and

1306
00:51:00,470 --> 00:50:58,319
you know that kind of thing

1307
00:51:02,089 --> 00:51:00,480
is there any automobile manufacturer

1308
00:51:03,890 --> 00:51:02,099
gutsy enough to take on that model

1309
00:51:07,309 --> 00:51:03,900
knowing that they're going to have

1310
00:51:09,890 --> 00:51:07,319
reduced long-term sustainable renewable

1311
00:51:11,690 --> 00:51:09,900
income in exchange for selling something

1312
00:51:12,829 --> 00:51:11,700
that is going to give the customer a

1313
00:51:15,349 --> 00:51:12,839
benefit and no other automobile

1314
00:51:17,390 --> 00:51:15,359
manufacturer is going to be able to

1315
00:51:18,829 --> 00:51:17,400
offer so I don't know I mean those are

1316
00:51:21,049 --> 00:51:18,839
all legitimate things they have

1317
00:51:22,670 --> 00:51:21,059
legitimate reasons for not bringing a

1318
00:51:24,530 --> 00:51:22,680
lot of these things out

1319
00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:24,540
so I don't know it's kind of a catch-22

1320
00:51:28,849 --> 00:51:27,359
you know what do you what do you do

1321
00:51:30,170 --> 00:51:28,859
you know but as far as putting these

1322
00:51:31,609 --> 00:51:30,180
things into commercial production you

1323
00:51:34,849 --> 00:51:31,619
know my plasma ignition is not a free

1324
00:51:37,730 --> 00:51:34,859
energy system but it is

1325
00:51:39,770 --> 00:51:37,740
a pretty profound thing to be able to

1326
00:51:42,589 --> 00:51:39,780
put this on an old engine lean it way

1327
00:51:45,410 --> 00:51:42,599
out drop the temperature make the engine

1328
00:51:48,589 --> 00:51:45,420
last longer get more miles per gallon

1329
00:51:51,530 --> 00:51:48,599
more power reduced emissions and so I

1330
00:51:53,329 --> 00:51:51,540
have a associate who's working on one of

1331
00:51:55,849 --> 00:51:53,339
the production ready prototype circuits

1332
00:51:57,349 --> 00:51:55,859
because you can do this plasma ignition

1333
00:51:59,690 --> 00:51:57,359
by getting one of these off-the-shelf

1334
00:52:01,970 --> 00:51:59,700
performance ignition modules adding some

1335
00:52:04,309 --> 00:52:01,980
high voltage diodes to it you got plasma

1336
00:52:06,829 --> 00:52:04,319
ignition but I don't want to keep

1337
00:52:08,390 --> 00:52:06,839
sending business to those companies who

1338
00:52:10,130 --> 00:52:08,400
don't really want to acknowledge my

1339
00:52:11,870 --> 00:52:10,140
plasma ignition so that's why I'm making

1340
00:52:13,010 --> 00:52:11,880
my own so I am moving in the direction

1341
00:52:14,569 --> 00:52:13,020
of

1342
00:52:16,450 --> 00:52:14,579
putting the plasma ignition into

1343
00:52:19,790 --> 00:52:16,460
commercial production

1344
00:52:21,349 --> 00:52:19,800
the solar charge controller there is one

1345
00:52:25,309 --> 00:52:21,359
particular unit which is going to be a

1346
00:52:27,470 --> 00:52:25,319
12 volt 20 amp solar charge controller

1347
00:52:30,170 --> 00:52:27,480
that is going to be put back into

1348
00:52:32,690 --> 00:52:30,180
production for the first time since John

1349
00:52:35,150 --> 00:52:32,700
and Gary bedini died about six years ago

1350
00:52:38,750 --> 00:52:35,160
those will be made available

1351
00:52:41,630 --> 00:52:38,760
Jeremiah right now is working on a

1352
00:52:43,490 --> 00:52:41,640
production ready prototype to test you

1353
00:52:45,530 --> 00:52:43,500
know it's come a long way that's going

1354
00:52:47,630 --> 00:52:45,540
to be probably in a kit form so people

1355
00:52:49,430 --> 00:52:47,640
can at least buy the turbine they can

1356
00:52:50,870 --> 00:52:49,440
hook up their own hot water tank cold

1357
00:52:52,549 --> 00:52:50,880
water tank do all the plumbing

1358
00:52:54,170 --> 00:52:52,559
themselves but they'll at least be able

1359
00:52:55,609 --> 00:52:54,180
to get their hands on a turbine built

1360
00:52:59,390 --> 00:52:55,619
right that's properly balanced and

1361
00:53:01,849 --> 00:52:59,400
everything so those are coming together

1362
00:53:04,069 --> 00:53:01,859
I know that Mike Clark who's presented

1363
00:53:05,630 --> 00:53:04,079
for the fourth time this year on his

1364
00:53:09,290 --> 00:53:05,640
reactive power generator which is

1365
00:53:11,210 --> 00:53:09,300
essentially a badini SG type system that

1366
00:53:12,829 --> 00:53:11,220
runs on a battery and it charges a

1367
00:53:15,230 --> 00:53:12,839
battery bank with all the

1368
00:53:18,530 --> 00:53:15,240
electromagnetic recovery once that

1369
00:53:20,630 --> 00:53:18,540
magnetic field turns off on a coil

1370
00:53:22,490 --> 00:53:20,640
it puts out a high voltage Spike that

1371
00:53:23,870 --> 00:53:22,500
can be captured in a battery and then

1372
00:53:26,150 --> 00:53:23,880
that those battery banks are swapped

1373
00:53:28,849 --> 00:53:26,160
every three minutes those battery Banks

1374
00:53:31,910 --> 00:53:28,859
stay completely charged up all on their

1375
00:53:33,290 --> 00:53:31,920
own it's self-charging and there's a

1376
00:53:36,650 --> 00:53:33,300
generator on it putting out a couple

1377
00:53:41,089 --> 00:53:36,660
hundred Watts net pretty much Non-Stop

1378
00:53:45,349 --> 00:53:41,099
so that is a true over Unity so-called

1379
00:53:48,349 --> 00:53:45,359
free energy system that is over 1.0 CLP

1380
00:53:50,210 --> 00:53:48,359
so-called coefficient of performance and

1381
00:53:52,549 --> 00:53:50,220
he's going to be looking at putting out

1382
00:53:54,470 --> 00:53:52,559
kits for people to actually build and

1383
00:53:57,049 --> 00:53:54,480
put this together with the controller

1384
00:53:59,569 --> 00:53:57,059
board that will do all this stuff so

1385
00:54:01,309 --> 00:53:59,579
this is the closest I've ever seen to

1386
00:54:03,589 --> 00:54:01,319
something coming out like that now is it

1387
00:54:05,809 --> 00:54:03,599
going to be stopped or whatever well

1388
00:54:07,370 --> 00:54:05,819
essentially all the different components

1389
00:54:09,349 --> 00:54:07,380
and everything to make that happen or

1390
00:54:11,390 --> 00:54:09,359
kind of in the public domain so to speak

1391
00:54:13,730 --> 00:54:11,400
I mean there's not really any secrets to

1392
00:54:15,890 --> 00:54:13,740
what's going on and how to make that for

1393
00:54:17,510 --> 00:54:15,900
example Mike Clark's motor a lot of

1394
00:54:20,150 --> 00:54:17,520
people know how to make the bedini SG

1395
00:54:22,309 --> 00:54:20,160
so-called schoolgirl motor scale it up

1396
00:54:24,170 --> 00:54:22,319
increase the battery voltage swap the

1397
00:54:25,849 --> 00:54:24,180
battery Banks every three minutes and

1398
00:54:27,770 --> 00:54:25,859
that's where to start if people just did

1399
00:54:30,349 --> 00:54:27,780
that with these thousands and thousands

1400
00:54:32,030 --> 00:54:30,359
of adini SGS out there right now take

1401
00:54:33,650 --> 00:54:32,040
the Iron Out Of The Core go up in

1402
00:54:35,630 --> 00:54:33,660
voltage swap the battery Banks every

1403
00:54:37,849 --> 00:54:35,640
three minutes that's where people can

1404
00:54:40,490 --> 00:54:37,859
start and that's really kind of the keys

1405
00:54:42,770 --> 00:54:40,500
to start moving into that self-charging

1406
00:54:44,690 --> 00:54:42,780
system and then put a generator on it

1407
00:54:48,170 --> 00:54:44,700
and see what you got so these things

1408
00:54:50,270 --> 00:54:48,180
work this is the closest I've ever seen

1409
00:54:53,450 --> 00:54:50,280
it's the simplest I've ever seen with

1410
00:54:55,910 --> 00:54:53,460
Jeremiah's system for mechanical on the

1411
00:54:58,430 --> 00:54:55,920
electromagnetic spectrum there's the

1412
00:55:00,710 --> 00:54:58,440
Mike Clark concept which you know that

1413
00:55:03,530 --> 00:55:00,720
presentation is in the umediapress.com

1414
00:55:05,569 --> 00:55:03,540
as well so it's like I don't see any

1415
00:55:07,849 --> 00:55:05,579
reason for anybody to question or wonder

1416
00:55:10,069 --> 00:55:07,859
well what year is this finally going to

1417
00:55:11,809 --> 00:55:10,079
start coming out you know it's been a

1418
00:55:14,030 --> 00:55:11,819
legitimate question over the years but I

1419
00:55:15,109 --> 00:55:14,040
don't see that as an excuse anymore I

1420
00:55:17,210 --> 00:55:15,119
don't think people should wait around

1421
00:55:19,790 --> 00:55:17,220
for something to buy off the shelf if

1422
00:55:21,530 --> 00:55:19,800
these become readily available in kits

1423
00:55:23,030 --> 00:55:21,540
sometime in the near future over the

1424
00:55:25,490 --> 00:55:23,040
next few months by the end of this year

1425
00:55:27,530 --> 00:55:25,500
that's one thing but all the information

1426
00:55:31,130 --> 00:55:27,540
is there for anybody to basically do

1427
00:55:32,870 --> 00:55:31,140
this on their own if anybody is you know

1428
00:55:35,150 --> 00:55:32,880
mechanically capable and they have

1429
00:55:37,250 --> 00:55:35,160
access to tools everything Jeremiah has

1430
00:55:39,589 --> 00:55:37,260
presented anybody could at least put

1431
00:55:40,970 --> 00:55:39,599
together a system that does exactly what

1432
00:55:42,650 --> 00:55:40,980
he's been demonstrating with this hot

1433
00:55:44,569 --> 00:55:42,660
cold system

1434
00:55:46,910 --> 00:55:44,579
and you know there's really enough

1435
00:55:49,549 --> 00:55:46,920
information that anybody who's competent

1436
00:55:51,230 --> 00:55:49,559
business savvy with the mechanical stuff

1437
00:55:53,270 --> 00:55:51,240
the manufacturing and the business side

1438
00:55:54,950 --> 00:55:53,280
they could take those Concepts and start

1439
00:55:56,690 --> 00:55:54,960
developing their own Tesla turbine

1440
00:55:58,670 --> 00:55:56,700
systems based on this hot cold system

1441
00:56:00,890 --> 00:55:58,680
and they could actually compete with

1442
00:56:02,750 --> 00:56:00,900
what the system that Jeremiah is moving

1443
00:56:04,190 --> 00:56:02,760
forward are they going to know all the

1444
00:56:06,650 --> 00:56:04,200
little subtle nuances and everything

1445
00:56:08,089 --> 00:56:06,660
that makes Jeremiah's that much better

1446
00:56:10,069 --> 00:56:08,099
than what they may be putting out

1447
00:56:11,630 --> 00:56:10,079
probably not will they eventually

1448
00:56:14,870 --> 00:56:11,640
discover those things on their own

1449
00:56:16,849 --> 00:56:14,880
probably but you know there's no reason

1450
00:56:18,109 --> 00:56:16,859
that some company or some entrepreneurs

1451
00:56:20,569 --> 00:56:18,119
out there couldn't take this and run

1452
00:56:22,430 --> 00:56:20,579
with it it's all right there it's just

1453
00:56:24,410 --> 00:56:22,440
sitting there for them right now and

1454
00:56:27,589 --> 00:56:24,420
those are viable systems proven they're

1455
00:56:30,470 --> 00:56:27,599
practical and they're here

1456
00:56:32,089 --> 00:56:30,480
I love it those are all really good

1457
00:56:34,990 --> 00:56:32,099
points people should stop hating and

1458
00:56:38,089 --> 00:56:35,000
start participating as they say and

1459
00:56:40,130 --> 00:56:38,099
Jeremiah as we're wrapping this thing up

1460
00:56:41,870 --> 00:56:40,140
we talked about this but it was in the

1461
00:56:45,829 --> 00:56:41,880
second hour not sure everybody will hear

1462
00:56:47,569 --> 00:56:45,839
it but just to summarize people are

1463
00:56:51,410 --> 00:56:47,579
wondering this sounded quite interesting

1464
00:56:53,809 --> 00:56:51,420
to them I'm sure when will people be

1465
00:56:55,730 --> 00:56:53,819
able to buy this and what kind of price

1466
00:56:58,990 --> 00:56:55,740
point do you think we're looking at I

1467
00:57:01,910 --> 00:56:59,000
mean I know it's hard to say in advance

1468
00:57:05,569 --> 00:57:01,920
but if you had to guess I mean is it

1469
00:57:07,250 --> 00:57:05,579
fair to say it'll be out in a year at a

1470
00:57:08,930 --> 00:57:07,260
thousand bucks or are we talking more or

1471
00:57:11,569 --> 00:57:08,940
less if we're just looking for some kind

1472
00:57:14,210 --> 00:57:11,579
of metric to go by

1473
00:57:17,750 --> 00:57:14,220
I know that

1474
00:57:20,569 --> 00:57:17,760
once we finish the production turbine

1475
00:57:22,670 --> 00:57:20,579
I need to do some testing on it and make

1476
00:57:24,470 --> 00:57:22,680
sure everything is good to go before we

1477
00:57:26,089 --> 00:57:24,480
actually sell it

1478
00:57:28,250 --> 00:57:26,099
and

1479
00:57:29,930 --> 00:57:28,260
things seem to take a lot longer in the

1480
00:57:32,750 --> 00:57:29,940
real world than they do

1481
00:57:36,410 --> 00:57:32,760
when you're just thinking about it and

1482
00:57:38,450 --> 00:57:36,420
planning it sure but just a random idea

1483
00:57:40,490 --> 00:57:38,460
off the top of my head would be would

1484
00:57:43,910 --> 00:57:40,500
probably be available and

1485
00:57:44,750 --> 00:57:43,920
three months I don't know wow it could

1486
00:57:47,030 --> 00:57:44,760
be more

1487
00:57:48,950 --> 00:57:47,040
sure so it's safe to say within a year

1488
00:57:51,109 --> 00:57:48,960
there should be something on the market

1489
00:57:53,750 --> 00:57:51,119
and people can purchase a turbine from

1490
00:57:56,030 --> 00:57:53,760
you as long as everything goes according

1491
00:57:58,250 --> 00:57:56,040
to plan absolutely within a year

1492
00:58:01,910 --> 00:57:58,260
absolutely beautiful

1493
00:58:03,710 --> 00:58:01,920
um but so for the price

1494
00:58:05,690 --> 00:58:03,720
I really have no idea because when you

1495
00:58:07,069 --> 00:58:05,700
build a prototype it costs a lot more

1496
00:58:08,809 --> 00:58:07,079
money than when you

1497
00:58:11,809 --> 00:58:08,819
then when you're doing production for

1498
00:58:14,030 --> 00:58:11,819
instance the first Shaft we got a quote

1499
00:58:15,890 --> 00:58:14,040
from a company because they have some

1500
00:58:17,870 --> 00:58:15,900
more advanced equipment that they could

1501
00:58:20,089 --> 00:58:17,880
make the shaft with they quoted us like

1502
00:58:22,609 --> 00:58:20,099
twelve hundred dollars but if we order

1503
00:58:24,609 --> 00:58:22,619
25 it would cost like a hundred dollars

1504
00:58:28,130 --> 00:58:24,619
for the shaft

1505
00:58:30,530 --> 00:58:28,140
so without getting all the quotes

1506
00:58:34,130 --> 00:58:30,540
for

1507
00:58:36,349 --> 00:58:34,140
buying multiple pieces of the turbine

1508
00:58:39,230 --> 00:58:36,359
all at the same time

1509
00:58:42,650 --> 00:58:39,240
there's really no way I can say at this

1510
00:58:45,470 --> 00:58:42,660
point how much the turbine will cost

1511
00:58:47,390 --> 00:58:45,480
but I can say that

1512
00:58:49,789 --> 00:58:47,400
when we start ordering more turbines

1513
00:58:53,030 --> 00:58:49,799
when we're ready to do the pre-orders we

1514
00:58:54,470 --> 00:58:53,040
will be able to get a price on it but

1515
00:58:56,930 --> 00:58:54,480
I don't know what do you what do you

1516
00:58:59,870 --> 00:58:56,940
think Aaron for the price

1517
00:59:01,730 --> 00:58:59,880
so what I would like to see is that it's

1518
00:59:05,450 --> 00:59:01,740
in the several thousand dollar range

1519
00:59:07,190 --> 00:59:05,460
because the value is there but again it

1520
00:59:08,990 --> 00:59:07,200
is impossible to say until I have all

1521
00:59:11,030 --> 00:59:09,000
the quotes especially from my CNC

1522
00:59:14,210 --> 00:59:11,040
machinist meal machinists who will be

1523
00:59:16,430 --> 00:59:14,220
doing the housings and as soon as we get

1524
00:59:17,630 --> 00:59:16,440
the first production ready prototype

1525
00:59:19,250 --> 00:59:17,640
done then we'll have the bill of

1526
00:59:20,569 --> 00:59:19,260
materials for everything and that's

1527
00:59:22,190 --> 00:59:20,579
really going to be the only time that we

1528
00:59:24,289 --> 00:59:22,200
can see what they're going to be going

1529
00:59:27,770 --> 00:59:24,299
for but I would recommend that everybody

1530
00:59:29,750 --> 00:59:27,780
go to emediapress.com sign up for the

1531
00:59:31,490 --> 00:59:29,760
free energy times newsletter because

1532
00:59:34,250 --> 00:59:31,500
that's one of the first places that's

1533
00:59:36,470 --> 00:59:34,260
going to be announced

1534
00:59:39,109 --> 00:59:36,480
the first run will be on a pre-order

1535
00:59:42,710 --> 00:59:39,119
basis just like how I did the rpxs and

1536
00:59:43,970 --> 00:59:42,720
the mwos and with a known lead time and

1537
00:59:46,430 --> 00:59:43,980
we're not going to take a single sale

1538
00:59:48,109 --> 00:59:46,440
until we know the absolute cost and what

1539
00:59:49,849 --> 00:59:48,119
the lead time is going to be so that

1540
00:59:52,430 --> 00:59:49,859
people will absolutely get what they

1541
00:59:55,670 --> 00:59:52,440
ordered and for people's peace of mind

1542
00:59:57,410 --> 00:59:55,680
the way I operate with the RPX and

1543
00:59:59,569 --> 00:59:57,420
everything else is that all the money

1544
01:00:01,430 --> 00:59:59,579
from the pre-orders they go into a

1545
01:00:04,490 --> 01:00:01,440
dedicated savings account at my credit

1546
01:00:07,309 --> 01:00:04,500
union and I pay for all the production

1547
01:00:10,190 --> 01:00:07,319
out of pocket once the very last unit

1548
01:00:11,990 --> 01:00:10,200
that's pre-ordered is shipped then and

1549
01:00:14,569 --> 01:00:12,000
only then is the customer's money

1550
01:00:16,970 --> 01:00:14,579
touched so that all the reimbursements

1551
01:00:19,130 --> 01:00:16,980
are made and then

1552
01:00:21,470 --> 01:00:19,140
everybody is paid out of that

1553
01:00:24,530 --> 01:00:21,480
and that keeps everything safe and

1554
01:00:26,089 --> 01:00:24,540
secure because if there's any no matter

1555
01:00:27,650 --> 01:00:26,099
how small of a possibility of something

1556
01:00:29,569 --> 01:00:27,660
going wrong and they can't be delivered

1557
01:00:31,130 --> 01:00:29,579
then all the money is safely there that

1558
01:00:33,049 --> 01:00:31,140
can be returned to everybody and that's

1559
01:00:34,730 --> 01:00:33,059
how I like to do business

1560
01:00:36,530 --> 01:00:34,740
so I'm doing everything I can to support

1561
01:00:38,870 --> 01:00:36,540
the project with you know Jeremiah being

1562
01:00:40,970 --> 01:00:38,880
at the shop financially otherwise and

1563
01:00:43,130 --> 01:00:40,980
with tools and resources

1564
01:00:45,410 --> 01:00:43,140
on Jeremiah's website was it my

1565
01:00:47,270 --> 01:00:45,420
teslapower.com

1566
01:00:49,970 --> 01:00:47,280
one of the greatest ways for everybody

1567
01:00:51,530 --> 01:00:49,980
to be able to support Jeremiah would be

1568
01:00:53,870 --> 01:00:51,540
through his patreon account if you want

1569
01:00:55,190 --> 01:00:53,880
to just mention real quick Jeremiah

1570
01:00:57,530 --> 01:00:55,200
because that actually helps you pay the

1571
01:00:59,089 --> 01:00:57,540
bills you know your personal rent and

1572
01:01:00,650 --> 01:00:59,099
stuff like that to kind of keep it going

1573
01:01:04,270 --> 01:01:00,660
because you're not really receiving a

1574
01:01:05,950 --> 01:01:04,280
paycheck by developing a prototype yes

1575
01:01:09,349 --> 01:01:05,960
patreon.com

1576
01:01:11,150 --> 01:01:09,359
I energy Supply but it's linked through

1577
01:01:12,890 --> 01:01:11,160
your my Tesla power if they go there

1578
01:01:15,410 --> 01:01:12,900
there's a patreon link so that you can

1579
01:01:18,829 --> 01:01:15,420
yeah my teslapower.com the patreon link

1580
01:01:21,710 --> 01:01:18,839
is there some of that money does go to

1581
01:01:25,789 --> 01:01:21,720
the project but like Aaron said I I have

1582
01:01:27,289 --> 01:01:25,799
to pay my bills and it's made a world of

1583
01:01:29,170 --> 01:01:27,299
difference

1584
01:01:33,650 --> 01:01:29,180
some months do get hard

1585
01:01:37,370 --> 01:01:33,660
so any support was greatly appreciated

1586
01:01:39,349 --> 01:01:37,380
yes yes and I understand that patreon

1587
01:01:41,690 --> 01:01:39,359
supporters will be the first to get on

1588
01:01:44,030 --> 01:01:41,700
the list when it is available I think

1589
01:01:46,370 --> 01:01:44,040
that's something that might uh jazz

1590
01:01:48,049 --> 01:01:46,380
people up a little bit but even if this

1591
01:01:51,410 --> 01:01:48,059
thing is a couple thousand bucks you

1592
01:01:53,510 --> 01:01:51,420
know generators are typically five six

1593
01:01:57,650 --> 01:01:53,520
thousand dollars and if we're talking

1594
01:02:00,950 --> 01:01:57,660
about lowering our electric bill to near

1595
01:02:02,150 --> 01:02:00,960
nothing I mean that is paid off in just

1596
01:02:05,510 --> 01:02:02,160
a couple of months here in Southern

1597
01:02:08,270 --> 01:02:05,520
California so I think it's an amazing

1598
01:02:10,250 --> 01:02:08,280
thing I'm happy we could cover it before

1599
01:02:14,270 --> 01:02:10,260
I let you guys go is there anything else

1600
01:02:16,490 --> 01:02:14,280
to tell people about links or where to

1601
01:02:18,829 --> 01:02:16,500
follow up or any information about the

1602
01:02:21,770 --> 01:02:18,839
2023 conference yet

1603
01:02:25,730 --> 01:02:21,780
so the official conference website is

1604
01:02:27,470 --> 01:02:25,740
energy science conference.com

1605
01:02:29,150 --> 01:02:27,480
so this year we actually had it at my

1606
01:02:32,089 --> 01:02:29,160
shop since I had the space it's a new

1607
01:02:34,970 --> 01:02:32,099
shop here in Spokane Washington and

1608
01:02:36,890 --> 01:02:34,980
we'll probably have it next July

1609
01:02:38,690 --> 01:02:36,900
it'll be whatever weekend follows the

1610
01:02:41,329 --> 01:02:38,700
Fourth of July it'll be a four or five

1611
01:02:44,329 --> 01:02:41,339
day event and it'll be jam-packed with

1612
01:02:46,010 --> 01:02:44,339
probably about maybe 17 to 20 or so

1613
01:02:48,530 --> 01:02:46,020
presentations

1614
01:02:51,349 --> 01:02:48,540
we normally open up for ticket sales

1615
01:02:53,270 --> 01:02:51,359
after December 31st just to make

1616
01:02:55,430 --> 01:02:53,280
accounting easier so it's within the

1617
01:02:57,530 --> 01:02:55,440
actual calendar year

1618
01:03:01,130 --> 01:02:57,540
there's a discussion forum I have a

1619
01:03:04,190 --> 01:03:01,140
couple forums energy scienceforum.com

1620
01:03:05,630 --> 01:03:04,200
the bigger one is energeticforum.com and

1621
01:03:09,230 --> 01:03:05,640
mentioning a lot of the Tesla stuff

1622
01:03:11,450 --> 01:03:09,240
early on Dr Adrian Marsh Haka says Ann

1623
01:03:13,130 --> 01:03:11,460
Griffin Brock are very Advanced and very

1624
01:03:16,010 --> 01:03:13,140
skilled in a lot of the Eric Dollard and

1625
01:03:18,430 --> 01:03:16,020
Tesla Sciences we created a new test the

1626
01:03:20,870 --> 01:03:18,440
science research section within

1627
01:03:22,609 --> 01:03:20,880
energeticforum.com it's free to join

1628
01:03:25,190 --> 01:03:22,619
that's where a lot of stuff is going to

1629
01:03:28,430 --> 01:03:25,200
be shared directly from them with the

1630
01:03:34,329 --> 01:03:28,440
teller experiments and reviews

1631
01:03:38,870 --> 01:03:34,339
real dot IO is the website where the mwo

1632
01:03:42,530 --> 01:03:38,880
and stuff can be seen vril.io

1633
01:03:44,750 --> 01:03:42,540
the main website is e mediapress.com

1634
01:03:47,510 --> 01:03:44,760
that's where over 200 books and videos

1635
01:03:50,210 --> 01:03:47,520
have been produced there's a few more

1636
01:03:51,650 --> 01:03:50,220
for the 2022 conference

1637
01:03:55,370 --> 01:03:51,660
you can go in there and you can search

1638
01:03:57,530 --> 01:03:55,380
by people's names or by topic and you

1639
01:03:59,450 --> 01:03:57,540
can also search by the year of the

1640
01:04:00,950 --> 01:03:59,460
conference so if you type in 2022

1641
01:04:02,690 --> 01:04:00,960
anything related to this year's

1642
01:04:04,789 --> 01:04:02,700
conference will be there

1643
01:04:06,170 --> 01:04:04,799
if there's a cell going on there's

1644
01:04:08,150 --> 01:04:06,180
usually a coupon at the bottom of the

1645
01:04:09,650 --> 01:04:08,160
website so you can use that in the

1646
01:04:11,690 --> 01:04:09,660
shopping cart and it'll automatically

1647
01:04:13,670 --> 01:04:11,700
take off whatever discount is currently

1648
01:04:15,970 --> 01:04:13,680
available there and I would encourage

1649
01:04:18,109 --> 01:04:15,980
everybody definitely go to the free

1650
01:04:19,789 --> 01:04:18,119
category because there's a handful of

1651
01:04:21,890 --> 01:04:19,799
free products you can see some of the

1652
01:04:23,930 --> 01:04:21,900
downloads of the free panel discussions

1653
01:04:26,210 --> 01:04:23,940
that happened at the conference the free

1654
01:04:28,130 --> 01:04:26,220
solar Secrets book there's a free

1655
01:04:30,170 --> 01:04:28,140
synchronicity handbook which kind of

1656
01:04:32,089 --> 01:04:30,180
goes into the Consciousness stuff which

1657
01:04:33,849 --> 01:04:32,099
is one of my greatest Passions

1658
01:04:36,589 --> 01:04:33,859
and then of course Jeremiah's

1659
01:04:38,450 --> 01:04:36,599
myteslapower.com anybody who can support

1660
01:04:40,130 --> 01:04:38,460
his website that would be greatly

1661
01:04:44,089 --> 01:04:40,140
appreciated and I would like to mention

1662
01:04:45,890 --> 01:04:44,099
Eric Dollar's website Eric P dollar.com

1663
01:04:47,089 --> 01:04:45,900
a lot of the stuff that happens at the

1664
01:04:48,890 --> 01:04:47,099
conference wouldn't be possible without

1665
01:04:50,089 --> 01:04:48,900
Eric's involvement with supporting

1666
01:04:53,150 --> 01:04:50,099
different people kind of behind the

1667
01:04:56,210 --> 01:04:53,160
scenes with their experiments and in the

1668
01:04:57,650 --> 01:04:56,220
right column of ericpdollar.com just

1669
01:05:00,349 --> 01:04:57,660
scroll down and you can see how you can

1670
01:05:02,809 --> 01:05:00,359
donate to epd Laboratories Inc it's a

1671
01:05:05,210 --> 01:05:02,819
501c3 non-profit Corporation and all

1672
01:05:07,549 --> 01:05:05,220
donations are tax deductible and that

1673
01:05:08,990 --> 01:05:07,559
goes to supporting Eric's work in the

1674
01:05:10,630 --> 01:05:09,000
electrical Sciences

1675
01:05:13,490 --> 01:05:10,640
awesome

1676
01:05:15,410 --> 01:05:13,500
well this really was great thanks for

1677
01:05:18,410 --> 01:05:15,420
joining me today's guys fascinating

1678
01:05:20,510 --> 01:05:18,420
stuff really impressive work Jeremiah

1679
01:05:21,349 --> 01:05:20,520
keep up the great work and take care out

1680
01:05:23,990 --> 01:05:21,359
there

1681
01:05:25,609 --> 01:05:24,000
okay could I mention one more one more

1682
01:05:27,049 --> 01:05:25,619
thing sure

1683
01:05:29,030 --> 01:05:27,059
I just wanted to mention about the

1684
01:05:30,890 --> 01:05:29,040
patreon that it's also if you're curious

1685
01:05:33,170 --> 01:05:30,900
about what's going on and the steps were

1686
01:05:37,190 --> 01:05:33,180
on it's a really good place to get

1687
01:05:39,410 --> 01:05:37,200
updates on the project as we go so I

1688
01:05:41,569 --> 01:05:39,420
thought I would mention that too yes and

1689
01:05:43,670 --> 01:05:41,579
in the wrap up I'll say a little bit

1690
01:05:45,589 --> 01:05:43,680
more about it and I'll make sure that

1691
01:05:48,650 --> 01:05:45,599
everybody has the links and the show

1692
01:05:51,530 --> 01:05:48,660
notes to All the URLs that were

1693
01:05:53,270 --> 01:05:51,540
mentioned so I know the promotion part

1694
01:05:54,829 --> 01:05:53,280
sometimes isn't the easiest for the

1695
01:05:56,990 --> 01:05:54,839
people who just want to get in there and

1696
01:05:59,089 --> 01:05:57,000
there are the real Tinkers so

1697
01:06:00,470 --> 01:05:59,099
um yeah happy to help and I hope you

1698
01:06:01,670 --> 01:06:00,480
guys get a good response thanks for

1699
01:06:03,410 --> 01:06:01,680
taking the time

1700
01:06:06,770 --> 01:06:03,420
hey thank you so much Greg it's been an

1701
01:06:12,109 --> 01:06:09,410
heck yeah guys that is what I'm talking

1702
01:06:14,450 --> 01:06:12,119
about I really do love this secret

1703
01:06:17,450 --> 01:06:14,460
science Tesla Tech Alternative Energy

1704
01:06:20,030 --> 01:06:17,460
space and I'm so lucky to know Aaron

1705
01:06:22,190 --> 01:06:20,040
because he is the guy when it comes to

1706
01:06:24,289 --> 01:06:22,200
knowing who's doing interesting things

1707
01:06:26,450 --> 01:06:24,299
and how to get in touch with them

1708
01:06:28,010 --> 01:06:26,460
comes with the territory of hosting the

1709
01:06:30,829 --> 01:06:28,020
biggest and most impressive annual

1710
01:06:32,450 --> 01:06:30,839
conference in this space and I have even

1711
01:06:34,130 --> 01:06:32,460
more respect for him because I'm pretty

1712
01:06:35,390 --> 01:06:34,140
sure they didn't even skip a year during

1713
01:06:37,549 --> 01:06:35,400
covid

1714
01:06:39,410 --> 01:06:37,559
I'm pretty sure they powered through and

1715
01:06:41,510 --> 01:06:39,420
I don't know that many people who host

1716
01:06:43,370 --> 01:06:41,520
an annual event that had those kind of

1717
01:06:46,250 --> 01:06:43,380
guts you know

1718
01:06:48,710 --> 01:06:46,260
so Aaron really is up there on the THC

1719
01:06:51,109 --> 01:06:48,720
Hall of Fame he's only personally been

1720
01:06:53,750 --> 01:06:51,119
here two maybe three times but he's

1721
01:06:56,089 --> 01:06:53,760
helped set up like six interviews

1722
01:06:59,270 --> 01:06:56,099
and it's a relationship I value and I

1723
01:07:00,410 --> 01:06:59,280
hope to keep strong for the life of the

1724
01:07:02,210 --> 01:07:00,420
show really

1725
01:07:05,390 --> 01:07:02,220
and I think it's a missed opportunity

1726
01:07:07,970 --> 01:07:05,400
for a lot of my podcasting colleagues

1727
01:07:09,890 --> 01:07:07,980
we like to talk around this stuff but I

1728
01:07:11,930 --> 01:07:09,900
don't see a lot of them trying to get to

1729
01:07:14,029 --> 01:07:11,940
Ground Zero with the actual people

1730
01:07:16,690 --> 01:07:14,039
trying to resurrect the suppressed

1731
01:07:19,130 --> 01:07:16,700
Sciences we like to speculate about

1732
01:07:21,529 --> 01:07:19,140
tartaria sure is a popular buzzword

1733
01:07:23,329 --> 01:07:21,539
these days and it's because people want

1734
01:07:25,670 --> 01:07:23,339
to talk about an ether physics free

1735
01:07:27,230 --> 01:07:25,680
Society in the ancient past

1736
01:07:29,329 --> 01:07:27,240
but how about we just bring the right

1737
01:07:30,890 --> 01:07:29,339
people together now and build one in our

1738
01:07:33,049 --> 01:07:30,900
lifetimes

1739
01:07:34,849 --> 01:07:33,059
I think of it like the food shows too we

1740
01:07:37,490 --> 01:07:34,859
have a lot of people discussing the

1741
01:07:40,730 --> 01:07:37,500
problems and the attack on ranchers and

1742
01:07:43,309 --> 01:07:40,740
red meat in agenda 2030 but where are

1743
01:07:44,809 --> 01:07:43,319
the sustainable AG producers on some of

1744
01:07:47,150 --> 01:07:44,819
these shows

1745
01:07:49,910 --> 01:07:47,160
big tip of the hat to Sam Tripoli by the

1746
01:07:51,890 --> 01:07:49,920
way he just had my guy Doug Lindamood on

1747
01:07:54,109 --> 01:07:51,900
and I get it hearing about the

1748
01:07:56,390 --> 01:07:54,119
intricacies of cattle selection and

1749
01:07:58,549 --> 01:07:56,400
rotational grazing is probably not as

1750
01:08:00,950 --> 01:07:58,559
entertaining as another conversation

1751
01:08:02,870 --> 01:08:00,960
about if aliens are really demons or

1752
01:08:05,210 --> 01:08:02,880
what the pyramids were for

1753
01:08:07,910 --> 01:08:05,220
but if the world economic forum is

1754
01:08:09,710 --> 01:08:07,920
really the enemy if the lies promoted in

1755
01:08:11,390 --> 01:08:09,720
the name of climate change and the

1756
01:08:14,270 --> 01:08:11,400
policies they're enacting to kill

1757
01:08:17,030 --> 01:08:14,280
sustainable AG are the key problem

1758
01:08:19,430 --> 01:08:17,040
as a conspiracy show that's supposed to

1759
01:08:21,709 --> 01:08:19,440
be on the right side of all these issues

1760
01:08:22,849 --> 01:08:21,719
what kind of episode helps push back

1761
01:08:25,130 --> 01:08:22,859
more

1762
01:08:27,229 --> 01:08:25,140
look I love a good tricked by the Light

1763
01:08:29,329 --> 01:08:27,239
episode as much as anyone but I

1764
01:08:31,550 --> 01:08:29,339
personally feel a responsibility to save

1765
01:08:33,050 --> 01:08:31,560
room for the right shows that truly push

1766
01:08:37,070 --> 01:08:33,060
back against the narratives being

1767
01:08:40,010 --> 01:08:37,080
promoted even if they can be a bit dry

1768
01:08:42,110 --> 01:08:40,020
so energy much like food is under attack

1769
01:08:44,209 --> 01:08:42,120
and it's really the same story the way

1770
01:08:45,650 --> 01:08:44,219
we've been doing it is morally bad and

1771
01:08:48,229 --> 01:08:45,660
therefore we can't do it like that

1772
01:08:50,390 --> 01:08:48,239
anymore all while ignoring that the

1773
01:08:53,030 --> 01:08:50,400
system itself suppressed the better ways

1774
01:08:54,229 --> 01:08:53,040
in the Alternatives nobody likes factory

1775
01:08:56,689 --> 01:08:54,239
farming

1776
01:08:59,209 --> 01:08:56,699
when I see comments on my food themed

1777
01:09:01,370 --> 01:08:59,219
episodes from vegans about how nasty

1778
01:09:03,890 --> 01:09:01,380
corporate farming is I'm like yes we all

1779
01:09:06,410 --> 01:09:03,900
agree but you're falling into the same

1780
01:09:08,570 --> 01:09:06,420
trap of not seeing how it should be done

1781
01:09:10,789 --> 01:09:08,580
and should have been done all along it's

1782
01:09:13,130 --> 01:09:10,799
not a binary situation we either do it

1783
01:09:15,950 --> 01:09:13,140
the worst way or we don't do it at all

1784
01:09:18,349 --> 01:09:15,960
and with energy sure we use a lot of

1785
01:09:21,590 --> 01:09:18,359
inefficient systems and a shoddy grid

1786
01:09:24,590 --> 01:09:21,600
because they only let us use or even see

1787
01:09:27,530 --> 01:09:24,600
a certain type of energy the stuff that

1788
01:09:29,570 --> 01:09:27,540
can be metered and charged for and

1789
01:09:32,510 --> 01:09:29,580
appears scarce

1790
01:09:35,150 --> 01:09:32,520
so we do the alternative ether energy

1791
01:09:36,709 --> 01:09:35,160
shows to say look at this and

1792
01:09:39,410 --> 01:09:36,719
electric cars that can't even get you

1793
01:09:41,450 --> 01:09:39,420
across the state a grid of charge

1794
01:09:43,370 --> 01:09:41,460
stations knowing your every move and

1795
01:09:44,390 --> 01:09:43,380
ultimately deciding when you've gone far

1796
01:09:46,430 --> 01:09:44,400
enough

1797
01:09:48,950 --> 01:09:46,440
instead stuff like what we talked about

1798
01:09:51,410 --> 01:09:48,960
today could be the future the better

1799
01:09:54,530 --> 01:09:51,420
future but the word must get out and

1800
01:09:56,510 --> 01:09:54,540
that is what I consider my role to be

1801
01:09:58,430 --> 01:09:56,520
I suck you in with the Saturn moon

1802
01:10:00,350 --> 01:09:58,440
Matrix episodes and I hope you stick

1803
01:10:03,410 --> 01:10:00,360
around for grass-fed beef and

1804
01:10:05,450 --> 01:10:03,420
temperature differential driven Tesla

1805
01:10:07,970 --> 01:10:05,460
turbines

1806
01:10:09,830 --> 01:10:07,980
all under the guise of a goofy Stoner

1807
01:10:12,410 --> 01:10:09,840
brand that a lot of people don't take

1808
01:10:15,770 --> 01:10:12,420
seriously well joke's on you we are the

1809
01:10:17,870 --> 01:10:15,780
Trojan Horse of conspiracy podcasting

1810
01:10:19,669 --> 01:10:17,880
and I'm sure it's obvious but doing a

1811
01:10:21,530 --> 01:10:19,679
show like this is difficult for me

1812
01:10:22,970 --> 01:10:21,540
because I don't even know the basics on

1813
01:10:25,490 --> 01:10:22,980
stuff like this

1814
01:10:28,610 --> 01:10:25,500
I have to really take a crash course in

1815
01:10:30,470 --> 01:10:28,620
turbines and general energy physics all

1816
01:10:31,370 --> 01:10:30,480
the stuff I refuse to study when it

1817
01:10:33,770 --> 01:10:31,380
counted

1818
01:10:37,250 --> 01:10:33,780
maybe a blessing in disguise right I'm

1819
01:10:39,169 --> 01:10:37,260
untainted by the controlled paradigm

1820
01:10:41,450 --> 01:10:39,179
looking at it with fresh eyes and all

1821
01:10:43,550 --> 01:10:41,460
that but it still makes it a difficult

1822
01:10:46,130 --> 01:10:43,560
kind of episode for me

1823
01:10:47,570 --> 01:10:46,140
but that's my job it's all good I think

1824
01:10:51,050 --> 01:10:47,580
it's important if these Technologies

1825
01:10:52,310 --> 01:10:51,060
exist if we think Tesla was a suppressed

1826
01:10:53,990 --> 01:10:52,320
genius

1827
01:10:56,689 --> 01:10:54,000
then let's do something about it or

1828
01:10:58,490 --> 01:10:56,699
highlight the people who are trying to

1829
01:11:00,890 --> 01:10:58,500
so I have a ton of respect for both

1830
01:11:03,169 --> 01:11:00,900
Aaron and Jeremiah I'm thankful to have

1831
01:11:06,110 --> 01:11:03,179
learned about Jeremiah's work he seems

1832
01:11:07,669 --> 01:11:06,120
so genuine and exactly like a Tesla type

1833
01:11:10,189 --> 01:11:07,679
should be

1834
01:11:12,770 --> 01:11:10,199
the kind of personality that goes this

1835
01:11:15,470 --> 01:11:12,780
deep in these areas I kind of expect

1836
01:11:17,530 --> 01:11:15,480
them to be not the most flowery or

1837
01:11:20,450 --> 01:11:17,540
animated kind of speaker on a podcast

1838
01:11:23,149 --> 01:11:20,460
and I expect them to not be the best

1839
01:11:24,649 --> 01:11:23,159
salesmen or marketers either which to me

1840
01:11:26,870 --> 01:11:24,659
is a good thing

1841
01:11:29,630 --> 01:11:26,880
I can see he's very knowledgeable and I

1842
01:11:32,510 --> 01:11:29,640
had a good time listening to him but if

1843
01:11:35,149 --> 01:11:32,520
he was over the top Super charismatic

1844
01:11:36,890 --> 01:11:35,159
slick Charming in a used car salesman

1845
01:11:39,470 --> 01:11:36,900
type personality

1846
01:11:42,229 --> 01:11:39,480
my intuition would say fraud

1847
01:11:44,390 --> 01:11:42,239
but the guy who just by the nature of

1848
01:11:46,310 --> 01:11:44,400
conversation seems to get more excited

1849
01:11:48,590 --> 01:11:46,320
talking about the nitty-gritty than he

1850
01:11:50,510 --> 01:11:48,600
does hey follow me on patreon well

1851
01:11:52,850 --> 01:11:50,520
that's the guy you want

1852
01:11:55,310 --> 01:11:52,860
I hope that we all see his good nature

1853
01:11:56,990 --> 01:11:55,320
and in turn he does get some support

1854
01:11:59,930 --> 01:11:57,000
from the listeners

1855
01:12:02,149 --> 01:11:59,940
I know not every show should come with

1856
01:12:04,610 --> 01:12:02,159
an added cost or a guilt trip about

1857
01:12:05,930 --> 01:12:04,620
being a plus member and doing this that

1858
01:12:08,030 --> 01:12:05,940
and the other

1859
01:12:11,030 --> 01:12:08,040
but interviews are typically done to

1860
01:12:11,990 --> 01:12:11,040
promote things sometimes just ideas in a

1861
01:12:13,970 --> 01:12:12,000
book form

1862
01:12:16,010 --> 01:12:13,980
and when we have a show with Robert F

1863
01:12:17,930 --> 01:12:16,020
Kennedy Jr it's like yeah the book's

1864
01:12:19,430 --> 01:12:17,940
already number one on Amazon I'm just

1865
01:12:21,590 --> 01:12:19,440
happy to be here

1866
01:12:23,689 --> 01:12:21,600
but when I have guests where I just

1867
01:12:25,669 --> 01:12:23,699
think man this guy or these people

1868
01:12:27,830 --> 01:12:25,679
should have way more support than they

1869
01:12:29,630 --> 01:12:27,840
do then I feel really good about

1870
01:12:31,850 --> 01:12:29,640
highlighting their work

1871
01:12:33,770 --> 01:12:31,860
hey you know we're not Rogan but we are

1872
01:12:35,870 --> 01:12:33,780
big enough to make an impact and I think

1873
01:12:38,030 --> 01:12:35,880
we do have a large number of people who

1874
01:12:40,189 --> 01:12:38,040
are passionate about these subjects and

1875
01:12:42,110 --> 01:12:40,199
the people tend to respond from what the

1876
01:12:44,390 --> 01:12:42,120
guests tell me after the fact

1877
01:12:46,550 --> 01:12:44,400
I mean we sold George Wiseman out of

1878
01:12:48,709 --> 01:12:46,560
Aqua cures and we booked Jeff Harmon up

1879
01:12:51,110 --> 01:12:48,719
solid for a couple of months

1880
01:12:53,810 --> 01:12:51,120
and where bigger shows get more views

1881
01:12:55,490 --> 01:12:53,820
and maybe one in a thousand take it any

1882
01:12:57,350 --> 01:12:55,500
further to thank the guest or go to

1883
01:12:59,510 --> 01:12:57,360
their website or buy their book for us I

1884
01:13:01,910 --> 01:12:59,520
think it's closer to one in a hundred

1885
01:13:04,130 --> 01:13:01,920
and it just speaks to the fact that if I

1886
01:13:05,750 --> 01:13:04,140
was a listener I would probably be

1887
01:13:08,330 --> 01:13:05,760
interested in every show but only

1888
01:13:10,189 --> 01:13:08,340
certain subjects would I be motivated to

1889
01:13:12,229 --> 01:13:10,199
take the extra step and that's all good

1890
01:13:14,510 --> 01:13:12,239
that is how it should be

1891
01:13:16,250 --> 01:13:14,520
but I hope some people are inspired by

1892
01:13:18,410 --> 01:13:16,260
the work being done in this Alternative

1893
01:13:20,450 --> 01:13:18,420
Energy sphere and want to be a part of

1894
01:13:22,850 --> 01:13:20,460
it even in a small way

1895
01:13:24,590 --> 01:13:22,860
again if the world economic forum and

1896
01:13:26,930 --> 01:13:24,600
the Puppet Masters of the power pyramid

1897
01:13:29,090 --> 01:13:26,940
want to say we can't do energy the way

1898
01:13:31,070 --> 01:13:29,100
we've been doing it and they plan to

1899
01:13:33,169 --> 01:13:31,080
enact all these restrictive and

1900
01:13:35,870 --> 01:13:33,179
controlling policies to make our lives

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harder and their bank accounts fatter

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we can acknowledge the very problem they

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address we can even have a predictable

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reaction but then we sweep in then we

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spread the word we say well here's the

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actual solution thanks for bringing it

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to our attention guys

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because agenda 30 is real it is the un's

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17 sustainable development goals

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and there are Cutthroat bankers and

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massive corporations that have divvied

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these 17 goals up and they are putting

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huge amounts of money and influence in

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each one that's in their area

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so it's very strategic and I worry about

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how

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effective their strategies tend to be

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and I think as food and energy are hit

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harder and harder a lot of people will

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suffer and my hope is that this utter

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01:14:29,270 --> 01:14:26,820
failure of a trajectory blows up in

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their face so badly that all faith and

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Authority is lost

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and the masses look around for what else

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is there and they find sustainable AG

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grass-fed high quality GMO free food and

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they find people like Jeremiah to create

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the true energy Revolution that we do

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need

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and I feel like the number of people

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that will suffer through all this is

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heavily related to how quickly we can

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get these ideas and this sort of

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information to spread and catch on

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high quality local resilient

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decentralized food holistic natural

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medicine optimized highly charged water

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and truly sustainable and versatile

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energy systems that produce no waste can

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handle pretty much any viable input and

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once purchased and installed require

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almost no maintenance as far as I

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understand

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well that excites me and I definitely

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think well how is this dry this is

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the reason there's that quote about

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sufficiently advanced technology

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01:15:31,189 --> 01:15:28,739
appearing as magic this is Magic to me

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01:15:34,669 --> 01:15:31,199
our mainstream technology might be

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01:15:36,709 --> 01:15:34,679
complex but is it Advanced depends on

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01:15:39,110 --> 01:15:36,719
your definition of advanced I guess but

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if it doesn't include efficiency in the

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01:15:42,649 --> 01:15:41,460
stack then I think you're defining it

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wrong

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I'm all fired up how about that but

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follow these guys reach out and say

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01:15:51,410 --> 01:15:48,719
hello give them a little boost because

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it is a thankless job most of the time

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check out the several years of

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conference presentations that are

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01:15:58,850 --> 01:15:57,480
available at emedia press Aaron

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mentioned several things that are

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01:16:03,169 --> 01:16:01,140
totally free in this interview

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01:16:05,450 --> 01:16:03,179
and I've probably watched two dozen or

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01:16:07,370 --> 01:16:05,460
so of those presentations over the years

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01:16:09,530 --> 01:16:07,380
at this point and I'm always impressed

1967
01:16:11,390 --> 01:16:09,540
with the material even when it's several

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01:16:13,669 --> 01:16:11,400
levels over my head

1969
01:16:16,189 --> 01:16:13,679
and Jeremiah seems like he's really got

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01:16:18,530 --> 01:16:16,199
something and even if you were to jump

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01:16:20,689 --> 01:16:18,540
over to his patreon and sign up for just

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01:16:22,010 --> 01:16:20,699
a month or two just to say hey man I

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01:16:22,970 --> 01:16:22,020
support the mission and you're doing

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01:16:26,090 --> 01:16:22,980
great

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01:16:27,169 --> 01:16:26,100
it's not a huge ask but it does make a

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01:16:29,630 --> 01:16:27,179
big impact

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01:16:32,330 --> 01:16:29,640
also one of the reasons Aaron considered

1978
01:16:34,430 --> 01:16:32,340
Jeremiah as one of the top contenders to

1979
01:16:36,530 --> 01:16:34,440
bring on with him because I did say hey

1980
01:16:38,030 --> 01:16:36,540
this is a great idea but you tell me who

1981
01:16:40,010 --> 01:16:38,040
you want to bring

1982
01:16:42,229 --> 01:16:40,020
he mentioned that it's important to see

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01:16:44,510 --> 01:16:42,239
some powerful figures of a younger

1984
01:16:46,130 --> 01:16:44,520
generation stepping into this

1985
01:16:48,350 --> 01:16:46,140
you look at these Alternative Energy

1986
01:16:50,870 --> 01:16:48,360
conferences and it's a lot of old guys

1987
01:16:53,030 --> 01:16:50,880
and the torch must be passed and our

1988
01:16:55,370 --> 01:16:53,040
generation needs to step up

1989
01:16:58,070 --> 01:16:55,380
ranchers say the same thing actually but

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01:16:59,810 --> 01:16:58,080
if you went to engineering school if you

1991
01:17:01,790 --> 01:16:59,820
have knowledge in these areas really

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01:17:03,950 --> 01:17:01,800
challenge yourself to see if you can

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01:17:05,810 --> 01:17:03,960
poke holes in this stuff and if you're

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01:17:08,090 --> 01:17:05,820
convinced by the paradigm

1995
01:17:10,189 --> 01:17:08,100
link up with these guys and use your

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01:17:11,630 --> 01:17:10,199
talents to push it Forward because I do

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01:17:13,850 --> 01:17:11,640
get nervous

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01:17:16,610 --> 01:17:13,860
when I think about what the network of

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01:17:18,530 --> 01:17:16,620
ether physics folks could look like in

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01:17:20,870 --> 01:17:18,540
10 or 20 years

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01:17:23,390 --> 01:17:20,880
so not everyone is going to be an

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01:17:25,490 --> 01:17:23,400
inventor or an engineer but if that is

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01:17:26,870 --> 01:17:25,500
your Forte if you're already in that

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01:17:28,669 --> 01:17:26,880
space

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01:17:30,110 --> 01:17:28,679
maybe this is how you're destined to

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01:17:32,149 --> 01:17:30,120
make a difference

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01:17:35,209 --> 01:17:32,159
either way big thanks to both of them

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01:17:37,130 --> 01:17:35,219
and I hope this interview has an impact

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01:17:38,810 --> 01:17:37,140
if you like what I do you should be

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01:17:41,330 --> 01:17:38,820
hearing the full two-hour interviews

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01:17:43,990 --> 01:17:41,340
yada yada today in the second hour we

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01:17:46,450 --> 01:17:44,000
got into Jeremiah's insights into

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01:17:48,410 --> 01:17:46,460
academia's close-mindedness

2014
01:17:51,110 --> 01:17:48,420
Jeremiah's thoughts on Tesla's

2015
01:17:53,390 --> 01:17:51,120
communication with other intelligences

2016
01:17:55,550 --> 01:17:53,400
a clearer picture on how to integrate

2017
01:17:57,470 --> 01:17:55,560
the Tesla turbine into our homes once

2018
01:17:59,870 --> 01:17:57,480
it's available for purchase

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01:18:02,209 --> 01:17:59,880
the best ways to incorporate suppressed

2020
01:18:03,470 --> 01:18:02,219
science Technologies into off-grid

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01:18:05,990 --> 01:18:03,480
systems

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01:18:07,090 --> 01:18:06,000
scaling up to power a neighborhood on a

2023
01:18:09,590 --> 01:18:07,100
shared system

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01:18:11,270 --> 01:18:09,600
responses from conventional Engineers

2025
01:18:13,610 --> 01:18:11,280
that see his work

2026
01:18:16,430 --> 01:18:13,620
Professor harlick's work on subtle

2027
01:18:19,070 --> 01:18:16,440
energy and water deuterium depleted

2028
01:18:22,370 --> 01:18:19,080
water and aging and Aaron's thoughts on

2029
01:18:23,330 --> 01:18:22,380
the aquacure and a modern day Rife

2030
01:18:25,910 --> 01:18:23,340
machine

2031
01:18:28,070 --> 01:18:25,920
so we did go quite a bit beyond the

2032
01:18:29,630 --> 01:18:28,080
Tesla turbine but that's the nature of a

2033
01:18:32,990 --> 01:18:29,640
longer conversation so treat yourself

2034
01:18:34,910 --> 01:18:33,000
and start with the seven day free trial

2035
01:18:36,830 --> 01:18:34,920
but in higher side news I think we're

2036
01:18:39,350 --> 01:18:36,840
cruising right along great diverse month

2037
01:18:41,630 --> 01:18:39,360
of shows and topics October is shaping

2038
01:18:43,610 --> 01:18:41,640
up to be the same I already have four of

2039
01:18:44,570 --> 01:18:43,620
them recorded So I know it's going to be

2040
01:18:46,610 --> 01:18:44,580
good

2041
01:18:49,010 --> 01:18:46,620
although I do need to stop over booking

2042
01:18:50,810 --> 01:18:49,020
myself like I have been in recording all

2043
01:18:52,610 --> 01:18:50,820
these ones in the chamber that are just

2044
01:18:54,229 --> 01:18:52,620
bottlenecking up

2045
01:18:56,750 --> 01:18:54,239
but there's just so many interesting

2046
01:18:58,610 --> 01:18:56,760
people doing important work you know

2047
01:19:00,350 --> 01:18:58,620
plus it sometimes gets hard to book

2048
01:19:01,430 --> 01:19:00,360
guests in the holidays so it's good to

2049
01:19:04,370 --> 01:19:01,440
be ahead

2050
01:19:06,470 --> 01:19:04,380
also we do have space left in the magic

2051
01:19:09,470 --> 01:19:06,480
on the mountain event with the gramerica

2052
01:19:11,689 --> 01:19:09,480
guys in February at Mount Shasta

2053
01:19:14,450 --> 01:19:11,699
a weekend of hanging out panel

2054
01:19:16,430 --> 01:19:14,460
discussions smoking hiking and drinking

2055
01:19:20,510 --> 01:19:16,440
that sweet sweet supercharged liquid

2056
01:19:22,610 --> 01:19:20,520
Shasta gold go to contact thecabin.com

2057
01:19:24,890 --> 01:19:22,620
and click on magic on the mountain to

2058
01:19:28,270 --> 01:19:24,900
get the details and join the party

2059
01:19:31,250 --> 01:19:28,280
and as for the THC Meetup calendar

2060
01:19:34,310 --> 01:19:31,260
September 30th coming up this week if

2061
01:19:37,850 --> 01:19:34,320
you are in Salida Colorado they are

2062
01:19:39,530 --> 01:19:37,860
going to Moonlight Pizza and Brew Pub

2063
01:19:41,990 --> 01:19:39,540
so consider that if you're in the area

2064
01:19:44,510 --> 01:19:42,000
October 1st a field trip with the

2065
01:19:46,790 --> 01:19:44,520
Milwaukee metaphysical Society to the

2066
01:19:49,310 --> 01:19:46,800
Aerospace Museum

2067
01:19:52,250 --> 01:19:49,320
they're going to the Evergreen Aviation

2068
01:19:53,930 --> 01:19:52,260
Museum that was a former CIA front

2069
01:19:55,790 --> 01:19:53,940
company that smuggled drugs into the

2070
01:19:57,709 --> 01:19:55,800
country through the 80s

2071
01:20:00,050 --> 01:19:57,719
seems like good clean fun in the

2072
01:20:03,410 --> 01:20:00,060
Portland metro area so check that out on

2073
01:20:07,370 --> 01:20:03,420
October 1st also October 1st conspiracy

2074
01:20:09,890 --> 01:20:07,380
theorizers in High Springs Florida at

2075
01:20:13,790 --> 01:20:09,900
the High Springs Brewing Company

2076
01:20:16,130 --> 01:20:13,800
and October 5th Waldo Higher Side Meetup

2077
01:20:17,990 --> 01:20:16,140
in Kansas City Missouri

2078
01:20:20,570 --> 01:20:18,000
if you're looking to find it it is at

2079
01:20:23,209 --> 01:20:20,580
the KC Beer Co

2080
01:20:26,030 --> 01:20:23,219
so lots of good stuff and October has

2081
01:20:27,890 --> 01:20:26,040
quite a few events already

2082
01:20:30,110 --> 01:20:27,900
and there actually was a comment from

2083
01:20:32,450 --> 01:20:30,120
someone named Jay who said whoever made

2084
01:20:34,610 --> 01:20:32,460
the Salida Colorado event I totally want

2085
01:20:38,209 --> 01:20:34,620
to go but I have a Harvest Festival I'm

2086
01:20:41,870 --> 01:20:38,219
working that same day in center Colorado

2087
01:20:45,290 --> 01:20:41,880
if anyone out there is free on October

2088
01:20:46,250 --> 01:20:45,300
1st come to the frontier Drive in at 4

2089
01:20:48,830 --> 01:20:46,260
pm

2090
01:20:50,810 --> 01:20:48,840
for the local and

2091
01:20:55,250 --> 01:20:50,820
scenario event

2092
01:20:58,490 --> 01:20:55,260
and find Jay working a booth for the SLV

2093
01:21:00,229 --> 01:20:58,500
local food Coalition also please have

2094
01:21:04,430 --> 01:21:00,239
another event in the area I want to meet

2095
01:21:06,590 --> 01:21:04,440
other THC listeners out here in the SLV

2096
01:21:08,870 --> 01:21:06,600
well Jay you can also hop on there and

2097
01:21:11,510 --> 01:21:08,880
do it it is so easy you just make an

2098
01:21:14,390 --> 01:21:11,520
account that basically just is an email

2099
01:21:16,970 --> 01:21:14,400
so that there is a person who's quote

2100
01:21:19,310 --> 01:21:16,980
unquote in charge of the event it also

2101
01:21:21,830 --> 01:21:19,320
keeps Bots out of the system but you

2102
01:21:24,890 --> 01:21:21,840
just make a quick and easy account and

2103
01:21:25,970 --> 01:21:24,900
then you say where and when people will

2104
01:21:28,250 --> 01:21:25,980
meet up

2105
01:21:30,649 --> 01:21:28,260
try to make these events at least two

2106
01:21:33,229 --> 01:21:30,659
weeks in advance so that I have plenty

2107
01:21:35,510 --> 01:21:33,239
of time with the way THC shows tend to

2108
01:21:37,310 --> 01:21:35,520
come out to mention them at least once

2109
01:21:39,350 --> 01:21:37,320
if not twice

2110
01:21:42,649 --> 01:21:39,360
and then people who are interested will

2111
01:21:44,930 --> 01:21:42,659
show up so consider making your own guys

2112
01:21:46,070 --> 01:21:44,940
you don't have to wait for one to pop up

2113
01:21:48,050 --> 01:21:46,080
in your area

2114
01:21:50,330 --> 01:21:48,060
but that's about it I have rambled on

2115
01:21:52,550 --> 01:21:50,340
long enough but I do love you guys I

2116
01:21:54,470 --> 01:21:52,560
appreciate the support so much and I

2117
01:21:57,350 --> 01:21:54,480
work hard for the money you know

2118
01:21:59,209 --> 01:21:57,360
days like today I am confident that we

2119
01:22:01,370 --> 01:21:59,219
can have a better world and just build

2120
01:22:04,130 --> 01:22:01,380
out the parallel society that will be

2121
01:22:05,870 --> 01:22:04,140
there to catch the brainwashed masses as

2122
01:22:07,669 --> 01:22:05,880
soon as they can shake it all off

2123
01:22:11,149 --> 01:22:07,679
however long it takes

2124
01:22:13,490 --> 01:22:11,159
that's it for me I've done my part your

2125
01:22:15,709 --> 01:22:13,500
move Tesla Tech deniers secret science

2126
01:22:22,990 --> 01:22:15,719
suppressors and ignorant academic

2127
01:22:28,610 --> 01:22:25,390
[Music]

2128
01:22:31,430 --> 01:22:28,620
circles again

2129
01:22:36,470 --> 01:22:31,440
cause I was looking up it showed me all

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01:22:36,480 --> 01:22:44,410
[Music]

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01:22:44,420 --> 01:22:49,890
now I'm not asleep

2132
01:23:19,180 --> 01:22:56,150
[Music]

2133
01:23:21,169 --> 01:23:19,190
set me straight

2134
01:23:24,130 --> 01:23:21,179
[Music]

2135
01:23:44,630 --> 01:23:24,140
you to go when you see the sausage

2136
01:24:01,040 --> 01:23:48,530
you know we're not sure

2137
01:24:01,050 --> 01:24:15,950
[Music]

2138
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:17,270
sky

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01:25:29,810 --> 01:24:42,610
[Music]

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01:25:29,820 --> 01:25:37,970
foreign

2141
01:25:42,890 --> 01:25:40,669
and that is another show complete

2142
01:25:45,290 --> 01:25:42,900
remember as much as you enjoyed this

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01:25:47,030 --> 01:25:45,300
which is just the free first hour I hope

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you'll become a plus member to hear the

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full two-hour interviews you also can

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engage with other Plus members in the

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comments and the forums and you'll find

2148
01:25:57,770 --> 01:25:55,679
your answer to one of the most common

2149
01:25:59,510 --> 01:25:57,780
questions I get which is where can I

2150
01:26:01,310 --> 01:25:59,520
find those cover songs that you use at

2151
01:26:03,830 --> 01:26:01,320
the end of the show well they are free

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downloads for Plus members too and

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without Plus members I can't hire the

2154
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occasional musician to bring these odd

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members are how I'm able to do what I do

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without ads and without the big machine

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being on my back we can fit so much more

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into a two-hour interview and I do my

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best to make it worth your time and

2161
01:26:26,390 --> 01:26:24,000
money the conversation only gets deeper

2162
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weirder and more controversial in that

2163
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private hour how could it not the way

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things are going

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but the best way to sign up is at the

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first-time subscribers always get a free

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options like a few various cryptos cash

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or check mail to the PO box and I'll

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even barter with most people if you have

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your own business and produce something

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nice that my wife or kid or taste buds

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might like but the architects of

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consensus reality have made it clear

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that these themes and topics aren't

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really welcome on the main stage and so

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this is how we secure a little Counter

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Culture corner for ourselves and I hope

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you'll join plus because that is the

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only way it works besides you can cancel

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anytime right on your profile page the

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most common concern I hear is people

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just being unsure if THC plus will work

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with their podcast app and the answer is

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probably yes but if not we have several

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high-level app recommendations for

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whatever phone you use and the website

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is made for mobile too we're trained to

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tip a waitress for bringing us a

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sandwich but that tip doesn't give you

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access to a second sandwich really I'm

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not asking for any more than that and I

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think I offer a better service come get

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your second serving of tasty conspiracy

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goodness in exchange for that small

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token of your appreciation beyond that

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let it also be known that we have grown

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and survived as long as we have By Word

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of Mouth I don't care so much about

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social media likes or follows but tell

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the right people about THC and not just

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listeners but the high level figures who

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are better suited to sit down with me

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than most other hosts and if you can

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help me with any of these things I can

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work to bring you better shows which is

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just a a win-win for both of us

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informative entertaining and

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action-packed it also never hurts to

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thank a guest you liked if you have the

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time either we want them to know people

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are listening so they're willing to come

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back down the road too thank you for